Gil’s Arena Reacts To Kawhi Leonard Leaving Team USA
e e e e welcome back to gills Arena presented by Underdog fantasy sorry we a little late y’all but good things come to those who wait women be shopping women be shopping women be shopping okay that was funny that was funny you know y’all be shopping you be shopping all the time I save my money the shop for you see it’s going to be one of those days as usual like dang couldn’t get five minutes into the show I just said women be shopping [ __ ] they do be shopping no I’m just K but this is Gils Arena presented by Underdog fantasy as always we got the legend of Gilbert Arenas here what’s up G up what up last show before we go to Vegas 700,000 subscribers life is good I don’t know why I have a sweater on it’s hot as [ __ ] outside it’s hot as I know man I’m over here mil can I get a napkin please in your own house yeah I’m over here like I was it’s a nice swe it’s a nice sweater though all you had to do was like nice very Hotes especially out here we got Lexi Brown back in the arena always a pleasure having you here love being here how you doing good I commentated our game last night okay how you like did you like it it was cool it was hard yes yeah we didn’t really play that well so that made it a very hard but it was fun they told me yesterday morning I shooter around there’re like you want to come commentate tonight that’s that’s how much heads up you got wow okay well I was like sure but I miss being on the bench so were you biased oh 100% anybody like tuned in was like who is this Sparks person and it was me a player but yeah it was fun it was cool naturally game against the links last night did not go as as it it was not good nonetheless we will keep striving for excellence and we got the Man known as Cemetery Larry Rashad mckas is back here with us with the the metri Jamal Mor throwback Murray State yeah okay 12 is back it’s a new day new players and new teams to pick oh still still on the hunt free agent how free agency’s one of them though for sure he might bring you over to Memphis no not to Memphis two players in a team two players in the team that ain’t going to be the team St not the team but definitely might be the player for sure so if you’ve been watching our guilds Arena alltime draft NBA 2K simulation uh then you know that kenyon’s team completed the sweep of Brandon Squad Tuesday and Gil celebrated Kenyon Series win with some standard trolling we got some video absolutely they put on a tremendous perform you lucky this ain’t my house cuz this it would be no cameras or nothing in here tissue [ __ ] goddamn [ __ ] tissue [ __ ] I know got to clean got to clean up the arena I would never [ __ ] with Michael Jordan ever again even in real life even in real life swear to God thank you had to clean up the arena got a trash he got a trash bag on got the hold all the trash bag for everybody listening to the audio version uh Gil was dressed as a janitor in his own theater room had to clean it up his own theater room had to clean up the arena after Brandon was swept by Kenyon Squad but we got game four today Gill your second ranked Squad taking on Rashad’s third rank Squad your team’s up 2-1 right now mhm game four in the garden are you going to take the 3-1 lead trying orad going to tie the series up you have faith in your squad still no they told me he was cheating I got to check all the sliders check the sliders simulation I know I got to check everything now I didn’t do my due diligence before now I’m just going to make sure and make my adjustments make all my adjustments we going to be good got to verify everything this is what so when Ken and team is blowing out Brandon’s team that’s fine I beat his team I’m cheating yeah that’s pretty much have nothing to do with everybody knows Brandon pick the worst team like he not supposed to win no games he wasn’t supposed to beat none of us okay in theory this is beond how is your team supposed to beat my team my team it’s a lineup it’s a certain lineup that can beat your team cuz we got the best but have you used that lineup no okay wait so how does how does how does the simulation work y’all can like and the team the team that won we put our team we put our teams and then uh we adjust it before and then we let the computer play out the rest okay so the game I won it wasn’t the lineup that I that was my winning lineup I won just based on fact that we was just better than y’all what was my lineup you didn’t realize that I just you had the Magic Johnson lineup yeah I I but you still had a big lineup I’m at that mag Johnson lineup had a big lineup but now that I know what you your lineup is it’s a series that’s why you play this whole series right seven games I got two games to figure out what your adjustments is you had two all right cheated the game one cheat game one was a clear cheat game one it’s really one1 game one how was game one a cheat cuz you put my guys they wasn’t the top guys my guys like 91 I’m no I have nine players and seven got re re re-up graded seven we going to figure it out though y I ain’t tripping make sure you pull up today we got seven games we I’m trying to figure out why am I the cheater and in 2K history no 2K history this year the best player in the game is Michael Jordan right I don’t have him the second best player LeBron I have him third is Kareem I have him fourth is Magic I have him fifth is dirt I have him sixth is Duncan I have him I have five of the top six 2K players he has seven his number seven that’s Larry Bird so I don’t understand why I’m if he beat me we should be said he cheating what else does he have he has he has a history of cheating Hees that’s what else he has what is he talking about I have this I have that the fact that he has history of a self-proclaimed cheater you a self-proclaimed cheater you aditt it on this program a proud self-proclaimed cheater cheating or taking advantage of the circumstance that’s not what you said that it’s not cheating has t taking advantage of like there’s a gym I’m taking advantage if you have a shootout at the district that’s just that’s go to the district adantage and I know the owner he owes me favors yeah but those favors were not offered to everybody El Ronnie 2K I could just call you you did call Ronnie 2K cheating cheating is cheating is I turn the sliders up or down which I’m not that dumb cuz I know they going to check duh no so you’re a smart SM he just Ronnie was like how can I do this without them notic no all I do is just run a 100 simulations against every lineup I think he’s going to pick so if I got so I run a lineup and I got beat I’ll just a lineup until it beats that lineup then I write it down so when he puts the lineup I put the line up that’s going to be a simulation we can that is a lot of work for NBA 2K simulation a lot L just to beat me got a lot of time so girl you’re not a cheater just to beat me I’m just I just show up like hey okay yeah change it I’m not there is a lineup that I haven’t beaten yet on his I’m not going to tell him I’m not going to tell him Chad investigate figure out the answer they’ve been asking me for the lineup they want out us to put the lineups on online so they can load them up and play with them they’ve been begging for it well we will see what happens in game four tonight but here’s what’s cracking in the arena today yes uhoh I did figure out something though Che so you know how like we were doing um we put the minutes on we put the minutes and then they supposed to play those minutes and I’m like yo I I don’t I don’t put it ain’t been working I don’t put Julius in I found out how not to put Julius in it’s the timeline rotation timeline yeah I didn’t know that that’s the last one yes yeah I didn’t know that I’ve seen it I was like what the [ __ ] is all this yeah so there’s no subs my Five Guys 48 48 you running that t 48 thought ain’t there fatigue on fatigue on yeah okay keep we going work you but here’s what’s cracking in the arena today johnar has been cleared to return to basketball activities from the shoulder injury that sidelined him for most of last season but what should we expect from J this season KD responded to the recent trade rumor saying he’s committed to the Suns but how good can the Suns be if their big three stays healthy this season and kawh Leonard has withdrawn from Team USA but is Dereck white the best option to replace him on the 12-man roster or should another Celtic that won Finals MVP have been picked instead uh there were some thoughts some tweets hurled some things we will need to discuss before we get into all that as always the show is brought to you by Underdog fantasy do yourself a favorite download the app use promo code Gil you can get up to $250,000 in bonus Cash Plus a special pick them and and as a reminder this is our last show at Gils house for a cool minute because the last show today this is the today’s Wednesday or Thursday you gave us Wednesday we we needed to re recalibrate regroup 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Basketball also released a statement on kawhai withdrawing and they said the following kawhai has been ramping up for the Olympics over the past several weeks and had a few strong practices in Las Vegas he felt ready to compete however he respects that USA basketball and the Clippers determined is in his best interest to spend the remainder of the summer preparing for the upcoming season rather than participating in the Olympics Games in Paris wow so they strong interesting that’s a very interesting get your ass back to the clipp facility and get ready for this we got the ENT a d opening comparison [ __ ] all not played like what I feel like I’m a necessary evil in this these moments like this because a lot of [ __ ] that’s being not being said needs to be said that little thing that we just seen could be every single player on the roster I think particularly kawaiian and beid who both all of them had injury issu Hey listen all at a certain age where we’re not going to risk in available next season Tatum and Drew H you just coming off of a championship run playing way too much basketball sit the [ __ ] down move move around this and then like we was talking about giving these young players the opportunity to really like go out there and prove that you’re the next level of USA basketball right LeBron and them want to come in and save the the legacy of USA Basketball by continuing to be undefeated whatever FIFA showed us that [ __ ] these young guys ain’t getting it done let’s put a couple more together let’s see what they can do y’all old fellas chill let’s let them lose a couple let’s let them if they can’t get it done like what are we saying so Kawai I think Kawai got down there and seen that he didn’t like none of them [ __ ] I don’t like none of y’all and I’m not going to Paris y I’m cool man I’m not trying to go to Paris with basketball is like basketball boot camp it and think about you down there with a bunch of dudes that you got to compete against in the regular season and you looking and seeing how they work and all that it’s like man [ __ ] [ __ ] them all y’all kawhai played in 68 games with the Clippers this season his most since joining the team but missed the final eight games of the regular season and four of the Clippers six playoff games with inflammation in his surgically repaired right knee just want to throw that out there can y’all put that back up there can we Team USA statement back up you think that what it was you think that what it was or he just want a vacation to Vegas for a couple days think he wanted to show that he was a part of it but he knew he wasn’t going yeah he was probably like you know what I’m not this is not me it was like it was like 120 in Vegas these last couple days he probably said I’m he’s like damn I got a month left of this and it felt like AA you can probably felt like a you like man what we doing it looks like based on the content they’ve been putting out it looks like summer camp he probably like y’all don’t need me to win this y going to go home with my family plenty of y’all in here how long have they been training uh so I think it opened like the day after the fourth everybody pulled up I want to say that Friday last Friday a week less than a week right four days maybe so less than a week and the statement says over the past several weeks and had few strong pra over the last several weeks who’s been training him of USA Basketball sever we seen he was in vacation we lying Costa Rica we seen him in Costa Rica chilling like Merc so over a few him at the fight few weeks you’re lying well he had a few good strong practices Al so he wasn’t dominant cuz we’ve seen the vote there was a vote of the best players he wasn’t on it so let’s just say what it is his knee was probably hurting yeah his knee was probably sore right and you’re probably just yeah we going to let you go we going to say some good things about you but you need to go ahead and go ahead and get uh guil to that there was also report that uh kawi was working out at the Clippers facility recently in uh gr Hill some Team USA reps in Clippers reps were there watching it let’s just say uh in the the recent past I don’t know the exact dates but let’s just say that everybody wasn’t particularly confident that he’ be able to handle this Team USA schedule they wasn’t they wasn’t confident that he could handle it that’s that’s what the report so that means so if he couldn’t handle it when they were watching him back then then you don’t need to give us this fluff story just say he wasn’t equipped yet to even participate but he came out there showed his face and we’ve been trying to replace him ever since then just be honest I don’t think it’s that even though that sounds good like the [ __ ] played teror he had a few strong strong what the what strong think about what think about the word is she had a few strong practices what the [ __ ] does that mean they play tonight they play we seen how they said about Cooper flag right we we heard the the language in Cooper flag dominant dominating we heard what uh they said about LeBron James right dominating look like the best player here Kawai a few strong PR that’s why he got hey look that’s why it ain’t about the injury it’s about him the narrative man listen you going down there to be a part of something and it’s about one person and his whole little ride out into the sunset he on our team is him he the number one who is that person Rashad Steph Curry Steph Curry Mak his first Olympic T I don’t know man all I’m say is first all I’m saying is it’s certain dudes that got certain type of mentalities and egos is like man I didn’t come down here for this I ain’t come down here for this and I don’t think it’s an injury thing because if it was injured just like him taking them games off in in the series they got swept they did get swept right who the Clippers no uh went to six with the uh Mavs so the games that he didn’t play in that series was uh based on I think they won one or two they won two games without him and then he came back and they lost and then they decided to sit him right so at this point I’m like Kawai he didn’t he had enough time to get you know get his [ __ ] right he goes down there tests it out looking around like what’s this about down here let me see what you [ __ ] on oh this was the story lines going to be man [ __ ] KN was swelling up cool man Lex what do you think about Kawai withdrawing if if he was going to withdraw why go on the first we had this conversation before they started training camp he would have definitely bowed out he like we just don’t know him he was there long enough to sign basketballs though that he does or how he reacts to things is just pure speculation on our part because he literally does not show any type of himself to the public so do we do we have that video of him getting off the bus on on day one I’ve seen it did he look healthy in yeah he look like look like o I didn’t look at his I didn’t look at his I didn’t look at his his walking and [ __ ] he just look like a big ass kid this is an a he looked just Dam hey that’s how I feel though that’s how I feel like he like all the comp said damn he look like he hurt already yeah man Costa Rica life Gil like come on man he ain’t fooling nobody man bus decision you know everybody was looking at two players walk who his and who I would say Jo embiid Joel embiid that’s all statement coming next embs I know he didn’t have a when I seen him in practice he didn’t have a knee bracer on anything but that’s what I know what you’re saying you’re saying why wouldn’t embiid’s release be next just because of the same situation cuz it’s you think it’s for these guys to save face like hey I came I tried for my country and let me go back just because the statement makes so much sense if you’re going to release a statement to get your main player out of the situation look somebody said he was liing with his [Laughter] luggage and just considering the factors he he he missed four of the six playoff games how much sense did it make now it don’t make none of the players who were injured and use injury as some type of crutch during the playoffs halberton sit your ass down MB sit your ass down Kawai sit your anybody who had injuries up until that point should be giving someone else the opportunity and heal up for the Seas but that’s what I’m saying so the fact that the other two are still playing which means they’re full of healty so the fact that he’s out and I don’t think I think he’s the only one that’s will not willing to risk it though he’s saying I’m not about to risk go out out here y’all got enough y’all got plenty y’all don’t really need me but we also have KD too with the the calf strin who won’t be playing KD exhibition I said he’ll need a few weeks before he’s ready a few weeks what does Olympic start a few weeks end of the end of the month end of the month I don’t know a few but he’ll need a little bit of time before he’s back out on the court had a c for hadn’t participated in the first couple days of practice won’t playing the exhibition game tonight [ __ ] it’s exhibition game but but don’t let first first exhibition gameing tonight against Canada but don’t let Canada win like of course they can’t they cannot lose to Canada they need it see they had to sub his ass in see they just had to sub his ass in and then we would have been like oh hell no so what do you think about the roster now that you lose KD and kawhai you still we haven’t lost KD but K he’s down for right now for just the showing like they get to go play like what they just did against team select yeah they beat did they beat them bad I no so select three points and lost by one in the scrimmage oh was one one point but that’s but select teams have beaten the Team USA Squad in these scrimmages before so I mean dream team got smacked like I’m just with with the all College roster this had NBA guys on it I I think we just you know we’re going to win Gold by like uh 25 okay yeah you know that’s still too close huh so we also have the video G you said kaai with with the leg sleeve oh yeah yeah that’s that little bag he wasn’t that’s definitely a limp right there see it’s hard to tell with Ka though that’s just a Vegas you can see it I limp like that that’s the hip link that’s a hip that little bag the little the little I wonder wait wait wait hold on after Vegas they go where uh I Abu Dhabi or something like that they play so he’s prepared to stay how many days F have a bigger he only assume that his bigger bag is with the got three pair of draws that is a one two night mat that’s a one night bag [ __ ] finish his back like oh yeah y’all I’m done out y surprised look what I walked in here with everybody else got duffel bass he got how much we want to bet that suitcase is briefcase on wheels so Gil that statement it said USA basketball and the Clippers determined um who who determined more like percentage wise out of a 100 Clippers oh yeah Steve bomber said get your ass back to LA I mean it just makes sense I mean that’s why I said if he’s working out at the Clipper facility and USA went down there to see him and they’re both like ah we don’t think he’s can handle and they just lost PG you know it just it is it’ll be it it’ll be dumbb if they know he’s he’s still not 100% % then he’s going to go travel he might as well just stay home and just rehab here in the facility and just get ready for this season if he still hurt right now man it ain’t no it ain’t going to work he’s still hurt right now if he hurt right now is it’s not supposed to work for them he going to keep getting hurt yeah what did what what what procedure did he have miniscus here let me see I think so yeah is just tough on him even mentally to just keep getting cuz he probably trains knowing him that like one of the coaching one of the coaching staff said the the main problem is literally the opposite of what people saying right it’s keep he works too much right like so what ends up happening is like after practice he wants to stay and then late night when nobody’s there he comes and shoots three three four hours so his knees and his body is never really healing because he’s sitting there trying to to stay in it so he never just all right I’m going to sit and just just not do nothing he doesn’t just not do nothing so shortly after uh kawhai made the withdrawal it was announced that Derek white will be replacing kawhai on the Team USA roster so white Celtic teammate and finals MVP Jaylen Brown posted this cryptic tweet the monical uh so Brown was a member of the 2019 World Cup team that finished in seventh place which also included Tatum and Dereck white who was then with the Spurs did Jaylen Brown deserve to be kawi’s replacement on Team USA over Derek white is Jaylen Brown even here right now like he could be wherever you need him I’m like maybe they asked him he was like if y’all give me some time I’ll I’ll come back he’s only a flight away but sh he perceived that as a snub Rashad that his Celtics teammate who did not win Eastern Conference Finals MVP or Finals MVP was given the replacement nod no I think he just need to understand that we be we’re all put in certain categories depending on how you present yourself um in the public manner when it comes to being politically correct or what stance you have politically um and your IDE ideologies and um I think that for jayen right now don’t take it personal you know even though there’s some people on there that probably don’t want you on there um you know they was picking Kirk Hinrich and certain certain players back then Shane badia certain guys got on certain teams that people may have felt that they deserve it but for him I think he need to keep his eye on the prize and not worry about being affiliated with anything except for being a champion being an MVP and making a name for himself and I think that uh just gives him more fuel to the fire more things that they won’t they don’t want to give to him so he got to take it so put yourself in Jaylen brown shoes uh if you jayen brown again you just want Finals MVP and let’s say you wanted to play on this Team USA Squad how disappointed would you be that they brought your teammate got three teammates on there N I would I look I would look at the other guys who they didn’t ask to come as well okay I would look like Kyrie he’s more deserving than I am because he’s been there he’s a vet and he’s already an Olympian well do you consider the fact that Drew and Derek now are on the team and not him it’s a preference you got Tatum you got Drew holiday you got Derek white it’s a preference I I have more I have more finals MVPs and all of them combin it makes no sense it does I mean it doesn’t just think about it like you about people other people who aren’t on the team that should be okay that’s one conversation but the fact that there are three Boston Celtics on the team and he’s not one of them and two of them are crazy the fourth and fifth option okay that’s not the the the the problem is this is Derek white actually going to get in the game to do what no is he going to get in the game remember he will cuz you know they all get in the game no they all put them all in the reason is Kawai is a forward they replaced a forward with another guard point guard another point guard right if you’re going to go another point guard you might as well get damn near the second best point guard in the League last year which is Brunson facts and he was already on the FIFA Team you might as well go get Brunson he should been the first one that right so the fact that you have one two three four five six guards now Steph Curry at the point Tyrese Drew holiday he’s the fourth point guard like you got rid of a wing player so you bring in a wing player KD’s not playing Wing player uh kawai’s out Wing play you bring in a guard they can’t play three or four you’re not going to have a lineup of Curry white and Drew holiday no you’re not going to do that no so that means it has to be Jaylen or it has to be any other small for Jimmy someone out there who can play a big two or a three and we know he’s willing too we know Jaylen Brown’s willing to go but that it wasn’t but it’s not the point of the player themselves there it’s not you it’s your position like I don’t care about the player it’s your position why do they get rid of a big knowing you just lost one a bigger guy you just lost a 61 7 foot 345 however you want to play him there and then you lost to 23 4 to bring in a one and Brandon Ingram you look at Brandon Ingram he was on the FIFA team they didn’t consider him he’s he’s the same type of size same type of yeah that’s what I’m saying didn’t have a good World Cup though they had some issues with but when you say team you’re in the pool of the list of players like I’m thinking like I’m it’s like that I’m thinking about the position itself right now you got there there’s only 12 players on a team six of them are guards but then you’re complaining that oh we need stronger guards man think about Kawai looking at his replacement though like I’m happy I’m sitting out cuz y’all replacing me like I’m you don’t really need to go up you don’t need to go up a tier level to replace what I’m Kawai going to start on this who’s their starters right now we don’t know projected starters well since KD’s out I think it’s Steph Brown um a they they had Booker in front they had Booker some people have Booker in front of ant but I think now that jayen brown Jimmy Butler Paulo benero Paul George um my team and they got to figure out how to work around I’m the number one option they got to work around me he said about this team yeah lightly lightly joking but also serious he that’s a Paulo B been a good one should have definitely oh yeah that have been a great one because now you can play three four you can like you can you can put him in anyway consider him you consider him too wow I don’t like I don’t like the committee I never really like like how many six three guards you need like that’s what I’m saying is Derek right going to get in like oh he need chemistry we we got too many scores he one he is not going to get in the game there’s three other guards you’re going to put in front of before him that’s like you got Steph you got the back I mean [ __ ] you got Steph you got halenur you got Drew holiday there’s all three of them are not going to get big minutes so where is where is Derek and in the case where like that 12 person might have to play it’s going to be because those teams are big as hell the European teams yeah they’re huge see they’re going to end up running they’re going to at some point they’re going to end up running lineups where you have Booker and anman at the one two you’re going to there’s going to be where you have to play Big yeah now you play them two at the who’s your who’s your three and your backup three now that the Kawai what’s since k a gone yeah yeah so you only got Braun by himself now he overwork you overworking him alone by himself J Brown would have been perfect because you got Tatum still still got Tatum that’s I can put Tatum at the I can play Tatum Kawai at LeBron at the four like you when you having that that big that that three that’s what I’m saying you’re missing someone like so maybe they thinking them all going small even if they even if they go small they can’t put four of them in no they can’t there’s four of them now but you know you know Health protocols and and for the point guard position maybe somebody go down maybe somebody get hurt they they can play the two guard heavy but like you said they got four point guards four point guards three shooting guards and those like two small forwards they got two shooting guards book an and that’s [Laughter] it cuz now you got step halberton is point guard right Steph halberton Derek white got dere white holiday so I guess they banking on jup too and Manon Tatum Tatum bam ad MBI yeah what like what what what what what position was kaai going to be like what was his rotation no I mean what what on the lineup seventh man eightth man yeah it wasn’t going to start well no wasn’t going to start so he about the 78th first first Wing Off the Bench right yep so you get rid of your your six seventh rotation guy to put in a guaranteed 15 or 12th man facts that’s that’s what I’m saying I don’t I’m looking at it like that like this guy is a was going to be like the first second person Off the Bench and I replace him with a 12th man because there’s no way Derek is going to be the sixth or seventh man yeah so I need to replace him with someone I can put in there Paul George Ben chero um Jimmy Butler someone who can fit but you think adding Derek white from a defensive standpoint how much defense how much defense what I’m say the best defense is a good offense I know that’s my opinion but I’m just asking so what I’m gonna do I’m gonna say all right Curry get off the floor right Curry get off the floor can play more defense what’s name get off the floor Derek go in and play some defense dere go play defense no but think about what what we argue about right about the euro versus the Team USA [ __ ] right your argument brilliant argument hey man and they not they just not good enough MH right so what the [ __ ] would you rally up and go get a bunch of Defenders who you defending what is the fear of you going to get a bunch of Defense if we already know ain’t nobody over there to be afraid of and if the and if they are who are they the bigs right we don’t need no guards to be out here trying to strap we ain’t got no Euro Jordan over there so it wouldn’t if if we needed anything we need another big guard that could actually segment helping moving you know what happened to you know what happened to the USA Basketball man is they started overthinking what they needed right they started overthinking after overthinking and and and [ __ ] up 92 92 there was no thought process it was all right who made the first team and the second team right and get the best player all right all of first team you’re on all of second team you’re on well ah Tim Hardway we’re going to bring back magic for optics for this we’re going to sit you out bird come on lner but it was the first team and the second team so there’s nine players on the team was all first NBA first and second team then they put magic and bird and then Christian lakner that was Dream Team 96 12 players first team second team two people from the third Team all 12 players made the all NBA team knockout knockout 2000 we need to make some uh we need some more team players right then you started adjusting it then 2004 you start just putting in these role players well the unfortunately with role players when you need them to do something great they can’t they’re role players why why do I need to bring off a guy who averaged four in the center position when I’m bringing off should kill O’Neal in ’96 it don’t even make sense Shaquille O’Neal and hakee was coming off the bench for the 96 team they both averaged 29 in 10 that year that was off the bench now we talking about we need some role players to come hey hey no here I got a role player Shaquille O’Neal hakee that’s my role players so if anything happens with them I have dominance coming off not a guy who plays a role and you wonder why we keep getting beat or have these problems you’re trying to create a team just put the best players out there they will figure it out like the rest of them did so 92 did it 96 did World Cup team they it was like a bunch of rooll guys very talented amazing players a bunch of bench guys and they’re like we can’t score [ __ ] they don’t even score on their regular team they Off the Bench what do you expect that they’re going to get on here and like let me average 20 they’re not even cable of doing that you said that was a dle roster a dle roster let me ask you this then do you think cuz I don’t want to just say this what it is even though this is what I believe do you think that they’re doing the new roster setup that form map changed from ’92 to now based on not being able to cater to everyone’s ego cuz you think about sha go back he says he says you [ __ ] didn’t put me on the team and I was averaging this and then you brought me off the bench and me and such and such was averaging this then you look down the line at the other players who complained about man I just wasted my [ __ ] time come out here I’m coming off the bench for this [ __ ] I’ve been buzzing his ass and woop woop whooop is favoritism with the coaches then we go down the line 2004 to 2008 2012 where those rosters completely went to team oriented rosters right so now we’re in the team segment we like we can’t invite the main players no more cuz we got to treat them like role players and we we’d rather put a role player in that position and lose and lose cuz we don’t have to deal with the ego of fighting back and forth with these star players who demanding to start and it’s like it’s only five spots well I feel like now it’s harder out because the all NBA teams are they’re players that are not eligible to play USA Basketball so how do you no but yeah you just slide the people up yeah you slide you first team and then if you have like two or three players that won’t play USA you just put the second team yeah cuz you know like the yeares because your roles are taking up first team and second team yeah once you remove them everybody else SL up right but if I’m but the ego is the ego checks itself right if I have on the team if I have at the guard position I have let’s say Kobe and Tracy McGrady right and then Allan Iverson is on the team you’re eag yeah I know you’re mad but one of you guys got to one of you guys got to sit one you don’t matter like but I know I got one of y’all coming off the bench I’m not going to say I need hey I know you’re going to be upset so let me go get a guy who who Who’s going to be happy to be he just happy to be it’s bigger than them it’s bigger than USA which is why I think now they’re more selected which I think sometimes they’re flawed in their selection with assuming that someone is assuming that someone’s but think about what you saying think about what you’re saying it’s bigger than you yeah what star player is going to assume that something outside of their own little castle was bigger than them and you going to go about that situation you sitting there and you’re near you this is the first time feeling something’s bigger than you and you’re in there like I don’t like this [ __ ] yeah cuz some players it isn’t bigger than them and some people are used to being a part of a team and they understand once I’m in this element this is perfect I love this element cuz I can I do less in this element for us to win a bigger prize so all I need to do is be ready when he call my name yeah but outside of that everybody else is in there like man this [ __ ] ain’t calling my name enough like even even even the team that lost right even the team that that lost where they created a team 2001 gold the team that was [ __ ] up was who 2004 yeah how did they select that team see 92 fine 96 F 2000 you’re starting to look like wait some of these guys I it don’t look like ‘ 96 and ’92 they starting there’s a couple guys in here that shouldn’t be in here they ain’t qualified yet so what y’all doing y’all getting a little teish and then 2004 you get smacked right you got Allan Iverson Stefon malberry and Duncan and that was it and young M was that young melow you got them three right Bonafide now we can question everybody else at this point was Lamar Odum Lamar was on that team was Lamar odm what I’m saying no no no was Lamar odm a all NBA player no right he a legend though was Amari STM wasn’t all NBA player either yet that was his second year yeah he wasn’t an all NBA player yet but because back then they had the three young boys or four young boys they had Carmelo James Wade and Amari so if I know if I got four Dudes that I’m really not going to play then I need to make sure think about the team this is you got a Mecca Oka for Shawn Maran Lamar odm Richard Jefferson in a league where T Maas Vince Kevin Garnett but you got to think about the Kobe the year before that before that the years the the roster before that was kg and Vince and all them when they jump when they jump 2001 20 the 2001 2000 oh yeah 200 2004 so that go from there to that Tim was the only one that came back right and then Amari they had to pick somebody the white wasn’t I don’t think the he wasn’t but he was younger but I’m talking about you got so mea Ogle for went over Dwight but I’m saying you if I got four young dudes that I’m trying to just but then I need the rest of my stars to match I can’t just bring in a bunch of rle players and then wonder why the role players ain’t rolling the way I need to was the other role play cuz you even say Championship pedigree with a lot of you rich you had Richard Jefferson you had Lamar odm he had won no he no they haven’t won yet it’s 04 this 04 so so Richard Lamar you got Shawn Maran AA Oka for carlosz Carlos Boozer and I I won’t even put Amari in there because he wasn’t that’s six unproven guys on Olympic one two three four six seven won eight they won bronze that year eight yeah yeah eight eight that’s what I’m saying I’m but that’s where it started right you put four you put four young boys in there that wasn’t like you you it was better if you did play them versus the role players Braun Wade and mellow over Lamar Odum and um and Richard Jefferson yeah yeah but would you say that that’s the reflection LeBron some of those guys didn’t want to play too LeBron didn’t play much Melo Melo was in the back handicapped right he was singing oh they locked up they won’t let me cuz he was busting everybody ass they wasn’t playing him right great so he so he didn’t play right LeBron number didn’t play so you don’t even you don’t even have the chance to to to do nothing if you needed it would you say that holl Burton Drew and Derek white are three of the unproven guys no because if we I go by if I’m going by what the first two teams did Howen Burton’s on his team cuz he’s an all NBA player so right Brunson will be on his team he’s the all NBA player so I said the only all NBA player whoever got screwed bam wasn’t on there I don’t think all no all MBA player who got screwed and I don’t know why they keep saying Isaiah Thomas should have been it was it was Tim har away they took everybody on the on the first and second team and screwed Tim har away for Magic Johnson that’s who got screwed over in the 92 Olympics it wasn’t Isaiah Thomas Isaiah Thomas wasn’t an all NBA player at that time it was Tim hardell who got removed for Tim so I mean for magic so we asked the chat who should have replaced kawhai we gave him three four options uh 58% said Jaylen Brown 24% said poo banero 8% said Jaylen Brunson 11% said other but let’s talk Brunson just for a second only player who made an all NBA team this year that’s not on this Team USA Squad and he was second team how disrespectful is that for him I understand Jaylen Brown has a case as finals MVP look look what I did you know but also Jaylen Brunson look at this playoffs I’m just coming off of Major Market King of New York and I’m second Team all NBA I’m going off of like you know when I’m when I’m judging I’m judging off what success was from USA yeah right you know just like all right they did it okay so this team dominated okay this team dominated okay this team dominated but it look a little shaky this team lost why did they lose compared to everybody else and then that’s the product so when you keep moving forward you’re seeing that you guys are making you guys are going down the same rabbit hole that you did in the 2004 the reason you went and lost in 2004 is because of this this thing you’re trying to do you’re trying to create a team like a bunch of NBA superstars can’t play together it’s like you’re trying to you’re trying to create an NBA championship Squad instead of a elite Olympic juggernut yeah I want to a yeah Bruns is hurt I understand that but even from the jump not not making that Squad listen even if you was choosing all of the all star just all of the guys was on the allst star east and west just pick between all of the those and that that bubble there’s not going to be too many role players that you’re going to pick out of that bubble it’s going to be all the elite guys in the NBA well we will see only assume that they reached out to some others and maybe they were like I’m cool think so maybe I don’t know how many but I mean Olympics isn’t like everybody’s like like Gary P Gary Payton starts coming off the bench Jason kid [Applause] and then the backup and then the Backup backup was Tim Hardaway Vince Carter Ray Allen and then the questionable was uh Steve Smith Steve Smith y so we will see what happens uh tonight in their exhibition game against Canada I know one thing Lonzo M and Kevin Kevin Garnett on the uh 20 is the siners 201 Team USA Team USA better not lose to Canada tonight they better not Canada is desperate for a w right now with all things going on in pop culture and life LeBron James it will not be LeBron’s fault if it does happen it would be everybody else can move around but LeBron was the best player in Camp which is wild they said uh so they said Kawai is healthy the Clippers don’t want nothing to happen to him so it pulled the understandable you got PG dipping you got the in a dome opening up and I think Quai played that that entire postseason without any issues with his knee inflammation it’s a different thing we’re talking about but you can’t have not played in the the playoffs I I it’s just is at this point it’s it’s smart this is my asset man I don’t want that happen to you I’m sorry what are you getting out of this it’s the real question has he gotten a go before I don’t think I don’t think so right is this something that you want right something you feel like you need yeah if you don’t feel that way about it then yeah like don’t feel pressured go not everybody’s yeah Kawai kaai it’s not everybody’s goal and dream to get a gold medal and that’s fine 2028 man I mean if that if that’s an option 2028 they put him as a 15th man go ahead go ahead get your little gold we owe you go ahead get a little gold all let’s keep this thing moving uh Tuesday Grizzly Star guard job Morant was cleared to return to all basketball activities after successfully completing shoulder rehab so job made the announcement by tweeting it’s go time job was suspended for the first 25 games of the season for blicky issues return to play n games before suffering the season ending laboral tear I feel like we can like are we going to mention that every time we talk about jaw that would be the last time okay okay I’m just talking about in general I know we’re going to stop but I wonder how if the regular media is every that was the official the last time just say this is a job he missed some games for some [ __ ] for some no he missed some Gams for his shoulder shoulder all right he’s Health we don’t need to bring up nothing but after the thing that stopped him from playing the first we don’t know about that at all already forgotten about returned to play nine games before suffering the season ending laboral tearing his right shoulder that required surgery missed the grizzli final 47 games let’s go 12 in the games that he did play J averaged 25 points eight assists six rebounds and The Grizzlies were six and3 with him in the lineup 21 and 52 without him so now Mor looks to return to the all NBA level and get the Grizzlies back in mix amongst the top teams in the Western Conference so what are your expectations for John Mor this season now that he’s been cleared to play will likely be fully healthy coming into the 2024 2025 I mean I think he on you know the Glimpse we seing of the the nine games I mean um you know he knows he has something to prove right he wants to let everybody know who he is you know don’t forget you know what what he does on that Court so I think he’s going to come out very very very strong shout out see you rocking the Jersey what do you think your expectation for a job this season well he’s going to be he’s my number one pick for player he will be your have you are you announcing that officially on this episode of Gil Reen presented by $ fantasy [ __ ] that what are you announcing I get two players in the team two players in the team takes two players in the team every season who are your two players this year J I mean uh ant and Luca an and Luka one across the board no no he had ant Luka and wmy he did have he he had a nice enjoyable season enjoyable season year and the Celtics made that move early early in the season did you abandoned [ __ ] from confidence coffee in the heat jumped on the Celtics man players in a but John Mor will be one of those players for okay John Mor will be one of those players I think I’m going to double back with Ant-Man and I’m going wait I’m going wait till everything pan out for my third okay and you’re not scky with the Celtics I think with what I’ve said recently I can’t just cuz I’m like the year is over with for him and I think the Philly I think Philly made a big move that threatens there they need to make a move now so I can’t see them going Mr bandwagon over there just I can’t go back so I got to figure out who that’s okay we don’t want you back you should you should I’m the good luck joh no the moment I Pi the moment I piels did win a championship with rad his I need some [ __ ] pres [ __ ] Brown s me lifetime lifelong Celtics fan yes you don’t you don’t want Rashad on the bway no he already jumped [ __ ] yes she does you’re not hurt by that I’m the reason why they won hey no when he joined the team I was like cool you going to leave and we can’t refute we can’t we can’t refute that you can’t refute that I the Reon why I’m the she’s been a fan this whole time they been [ __ ] getting killed I was there for the championship the Paul Pier champ oh wait okay so you I was a fan was a real fan then yes been a fan for 29 years he was like 9 years old I was pretty young but I still rolling though I was supporting that don’t count where do where do it is this is not trolling where do Boston Celtics rank in franchises since the NBA the the real NBA has started in 78 what how many championships the merger which is the the real NBA in a sense before that not real NBA where do they rank as franchise top five at least they’re top five still since 78 yeah since since the merger the 80s were a very strong no Boston cuz Boston I mean cuz bird got three Paul Pierce and this one so that’s five championships with them Bulls got six how many the Warriors Got Warriors got four and the Spurs got five Spurs got five right heat has three heat has three Lakers Lakers have you got five with magic and then five five with Co five with Co and then one with Le so they got 11 so as as expected uh so is point are we making right now I would just Bost as organization oh with championships just regular just organization because the the the Boston Legacy everyone uses the whole Legacy and it’s like well technically the NBA really started here so what is the Legacy can’t hold on to something that was yeah so there’s still even if you don’t do the same thing with the the Lakers it’s 11 yeah and they’re they’re pre 78 so that’s what I’m saying out of the last you know but you talking about Prestige of organization like where the organization ranks outside of championships they would be out of like seven maybe like for fan for like how taking care of players or just like the revenue that Revenue brought in and just thriving as an organization I think the Warriors came up Warriors was it Warriors Dallas there nick uh see It’s hard talking about organiz we’re talking about when people when they take care of you Cleveland went ownership when it’s like you come here you just think basetball D is one you think Dallas is one golden St to I think Dallas and go to St number I’ve never heard anything bad about Spurs I don’t know no I don’t think I just think it’s Bor they just think it’s boring it’s just boring you know like when you get there it’s about just basketball so you don’t have to pay for nothing your locker room is military for you got all the the equipment you got everything it’s like A1 the video games the locker room everything is just classy breakfast lunch dinner Orlando’s up there Orlando was said they had Goods hell yeah they doing blood listen they doing blood some of the not so good ones they doing blood testing they’re doing blood change yeah they doing blood testing on you to see what kind what you’re allergic to every month yeah you got you got breakfast lunch you got breakfast lunch pregame and after game so you never got to uh spend money damn yeah you never got to spend money on food I would love that right got the club right into the arena so you ain’t never got to leave you after the game you just go party right up there man I was like yeah I was like man this is some hell this is some nice [ __ ] here I just remember Dallas having the [ __ ] TVs in the locker and [ __ ] all that I was like yeah they spending money over here to R the people want to know when will you be making your new team announcement prior prior to the start of the Season or are you going to wait okay all right once everybody starts moving where they need to move where they’re at and we figure out rosters I’m good all right well let’s get back to J give what are your expectations for jar this season 20 2 2 sam8 and Sam damn so those sound like all NBA level numbers just hearing them right now yeah no no no no no no he is going to be all NBA player that team is not going to help him get into the all NBA I agree with that this is all I’m saying play out of his mind he’s yeah but that Memphis team is he’s going to sell out the arena oh his first game they not they’re not coming for the rest of that team the first game back is going to be crazy so it sounds like they’re going to have a hard time making the moves that’s going to help him do anything I think Ed going to help him though and we’re going to talk Ed in a second open SC big BL he looks a lot more athletic and uh what you call that uh agile agile than I thought he would he looks a lot more in shape he looks like everything is just hey and that’s the difference what he has 14 14 out spread out you got more room to operate nasty work down there yeah but but let’s talk J J six and three with joh on the lineup last season obviously they they were not good without him had a ton of injuries though ton of different starting lineups a lot of young players got experience now guys like GG Jackson that are now going to come into this season but prior to J getting hurt finished second in the West in the two seasons prior to that so I’m it’s not different team man a different you lost some you lost some veteran players that really like molded and helped that team right and those players moved on they were worth they were worth money so you know you got Dylan Brooks b got what’s the name back they got what’s the name for him who Marcus SM so you you have you have a squad now J Marcus Smart jiren Jackson GG Jackson Desmond Bank Olympic [ __ ] right I lose 6 eight Defender that can play the two three on defense and then bring in a small point guard yeah yeah doesn’t help me I think they all in development mode in Memphis I think they trying they they going to try to figure out right we’re going to rank our Western Conference teams later in the show but I I think y’all a little too down on the Grizzlies right now if J if job’s back in playing that’s a completely different team we SE has gotten so much better though we SE yes that part like like again especially in the west he got them six and three but we see what they look like without them a good team at least can be they can hold the ground like that’s how that’s how good we know Philly could be without embid they struggled but they they learned how to they could they they can maintain right so that means when you add the best player they can take off facts right that’s nah Jaren Jack Jun can’t do that Bane couldn’t do that well also I think the I mean the situation in Memphis and the situation in Philly oh I forgot Bane’s still there yes he had Bane out of position you know I mean jiren Jackson out of position playing a lot of Center last year when now sh back I mean I think we could say that they’re going to be better than we think because they did get all that in-game experience yeah who who was they three last year yeah who was a three last year who who’s the three yeah I don’t I don’t even know skin was it the skinny kid number eight because wait so we got J if we have J and Marcus Bane Bane no and Bane if we have John Bane at the one two and then GG Jackson goes to the three M Jared at the that’s the lineup be okay marus they might be all right I’m trying to tell you girl like they might be all right they just get a couple free agents that just out there that you can pick up that can give you something they got a list they got GG Jackson got to start like he got to play the the what’s up with him I don’t know nothing about him and with his game Who GG Jackson was how young he was hungry he Sho gets buckets plays the right he’s here the free ages Gary Tren Jr Marquel folks Sadiq Bay Spencer witty Gordon Haywood D dougman derit I go Marquel folks wait um Lonnie Walker Josh a Kobe Evan forier Isaac aoro Pat Bev Kyle Lowry Jay Crowder tyus Jones Luke Canard I go for guards they just I go Marquel folks what you need him for uh you got Bane Bane J and Marcus schar I mean if I didn’t have Marcus another guy who another guy who can get to the rim and put pressure put pressure and then a three I’m thinking what uho or no Lonnie Walker J Crowder too old man Defender too old a aoro why what position Lonnie Walker play like Lonnie Walker two three two two three he could be good I would m i mean if you going to go Jos before I go I like I like them San Antonio Sadi Bay he’s about 68 shooter yeah stretch yeah Y how tall is the the Jack GG Jackson kid about six 6 ners but let’s talk about Zack Edy so Grizzly shocked a lot of people selecting the two-time player of the year with the ninth overall pick Ed made his summer league debut Monday against the Jazz gave the Grizz some hope for what’s to come in the league so we got some highlights here out there be [ __ ] playing well on both sides of the Court he was impressive 14 points 15 rebounds four blocks in the game out there dunking on people oh nice oh he can’t see that he’s older to big as hell that’s a big boy and obviously it’s just summer league so we don’t want to overreact he’s 22 years old too Gil so he’s a little bit older so little a little bit more ready to be thrown in the fire right away he got some stuff though yeah I’m not woring about those with him I want to see him in pick and rolls yeah that’s what he’s not doing that cuz that’s what the that’s what he’s going to be playing against he’s going to be playing against teams that’s picking and rolling caught Walker castler slipping also uh the Grizz down 2.8 seconds to go little Tip Drill send it to OT hey uh if I’m the O nice I like that he’s moving like that I like I’m go go back to that second play if I’m if I’m them second play yes yeah so it’s all the way at the beginning yeah get that [ __ ] out of here when he gets the not that just keep going keep going when he has the ball and they give him a post up oh when he said he going to pass yeah right here slow down oh right there W wo wo slow down ah that pass right look right see right here boom stop I am all they need to learn and teach him what to look for right to be like the Vlad devox type the yish he going to see that he didn’t see it here seen it late now look it look like he looking right at him he is he’s looking at the defense too so thr it now he’s look but he had already he checked it that’s what I’m saying but he should like wait for what I’m saying pass that he’s already’s it’s right now he’s in robot mode cuz he don’t have those passes we know we coming so yeah in college someone is standing right there he’s throwing it in front of him he’s not looking cuz they’re not cutting behind it’s all pass and space now it’s pass and cut you got to know those pass yeah so I got that those are the plays that I’ll be looking for him like when you have it right you got to this man is going to have to rotate here if he’s trying to like you got to know the the the options um but I just want to see him in pick and roll him guarding the bucket love that yeah love it with with him posting up I love it too because you know those guys are going to cut he just going to have to hit them cuz once he starts hitting those cut guys canu many so is your opinion shifting a little bit on Zach Ed as what you work super high on him come com into the draft you sure work no no yo you said he was going to get somebody you said he was going to get a GM too deserve to be fired man for where he’s for where he’s playing he’s a it’s perfect perfect for them but you said if he was in Atlanta no if he was in Atlanta no if it was in the came to the Spurs no all the other teams are too young for say his credit though Memphis was the furthest team way of thinking about putting him at like a spot we talked about the Spurs we talked we talked about young yeah we talked about the young team like this is technically a veteran team so even if he got drafted to let’s say somehow the Sacramento Kings perfect perfect spot perfect [ __ ] if he got picked for the Lakers perfect spot put Anthony Davis at the four put him at the five I like it but here he gets to actually start he get to start he has the potential to start yeah [ __ ] he would start with the Lakers I wouldn’t at the five nah not right away I let cuz it’s cuz you’re you’re before drafting him if you draft him you’re not even thinking of having a five man yeah we need a five and if you drafted him you would draft him for a backup five we need a five man and who would you get as if outside of him there wouldn’t be valunas is who they was trying to get and for some reason you got robbed he was not trying to tank with the Lakers Rob Rob robbed you robed and robbed you you got robbed Rob working for somebody else make the T-shirt make the T-shirt people will buy it but Edy will be potentially competing for a starting role with that Squad we’ll have the opportunity is um his name is healthy Adams no he’s yeah he got he got traed like he would he would be coming off the bench if Jared Jack played his POS but he don’t want to play the five he don’t really want to play the five he wants Shi up to four but you got GG Jackson there as well so that that’s why I said it kind of messes it up but he can still come off the bench he’s young enough now where he won’t I think necessarily be tripping despite what he that’s why I said put him at the three that’s why I said if they go three four five you got a different team you potentially have J Marcus SM Bane I’m not starring Marcus Smart I’m not going 62 62 62 I’m just telling you is Bane is 62 no Bane is bigger no he’s 64 he’s 6’4 but he’s 6’4 negative wingspan yeah he got Small Arms he’s got Small Arms he so he’s negative wingspan he’s he’s 6’5 t-x but but it’s still it’s it’s a smallx t-x T-Rex arms though plus like how much he makes up for withness so that’s why I said so I I’m fine listen I’m fine with having my guards both 64 65 with 6 869 610 and then 73 that is a perfect lineup for me but I am not going 64 64 64 how well [ __ ] I don’t mind that either 64 four and then I have two bigs back there but it still puts pressure it puts too much pressure on them okay how good is jiren Jackson Jr though huh how good is he jiren Jackson Jr is he good enough to play the four and really be something for that team let’s just say we we haven’t seen it since Stephen Adams right and that’s when he broke out he broke out as a premier potential Talent while he was playing next to him he goes down forced to play to five wi’s defensive player of the year right so he don’t have no room to go down from here I mean was first team Ed playing the five now put him back in his natural position but that natural position wasn’t defensive player of the year he got defensive player of the year at the five cuz he was guarding them fives two time block champ so he said jiren Jack I at the both both both centers he was block CH no no he was blockchain I don’t know check the tape I mean when you’re talking about him being an elite player you talking about defensively or over obviously is a elite defensive player he was dominant at he was dominant at the four too so it’s it’s really on it’s really on him I guess cuz what I watched them at the tail like maybe like 30 games left in the season I’m watching him play and he didn’t take a leadership role for that team and he just kind of showed up when he wanted to cuz he didn’t have like it was no excuse for him but it was he like oh well we don’t got Steve and I’m forced to play the five and I can’t do everything by myself we don’t got job we don’t got this it’s just me out here and it’s like well show us you’re going to get 25 and 12 he barely cracked he didn’t even average over 10 boards yeah I think that’s five boards Asing see but see that’s now but that’s what I’m saying so now technically you need 23 and need you need Ed you need Ed at the back there then so now Ed becomes more valuable so you have career highing points but only only six rebounds what was his career highing points uh 22.5 see that’s see that’s what I’m saying as far as his talent at the center position I don’t know how to gaug that like 22 at the center position you go to the four can you give me 28 B 23 and no but that’s at the I don’t know if he realizes this he goes to the four his production’s going to go down cuz he’s playing against guys his size you play You’re play no I mean you’re playing guys your size too but that offense is not going to be ran through you at the center you are the only person we get to pass the ball down to now we have now we’re going to we we’ll probably throw it into the big man and do do cut off right it used to be around it used to be you now we’re going to throw the Edy goal and then if Ed don’t have no pass now you can go sit there like ah it’s high low now but he gets that jumper he gets that high that high jumper that he he wants that high jumper by himself so high low from him is they got to go help from the top and then kick out or they let him go one-on one in post yeah see his numbers see if his numbers is going to go his numbers are going to go down just because the way the offense has to shift now he play Zebo he going to play the Zebo rooll Zebo markol he gonna play the Zebo role but not the Zebo plays right cuz Zebo had all isos yeah you’re not going to ISO him you’re going to do pick and roll you got Bane coming off I mean it’s they got a lot more though what I’m saying is him him now saying he don’t want to play the five and go to four and bringing in a five yeah is going to is going to hurt him for sure for sure it’s going to hurt him for sure you have his 23 last year I mean and this is not just a five that you’re bringing in and just play five he can score that [ __ ] he can give us 20 and 10 so that’s going to make sure we run offense through him now that’s why I was asking the question like this is the best this afraid for him at this was like a great like when you think about it like how how it rotate that was a great pick by them yeah so you with now he was happy he was yeah that was a great ladies and gentlemen you has changed your stance I’m think it was a like for Memphis that was a great pickup by Memphis cuz now the whole team is about the same age yeah that is yeah because young super it’s not even old it’s not even a young team cuz that’s not considered a young team that’s a middle compared to other that’s the middle of the road cuz J’s what 23 24 now yep that’s right ban is about 24 J jar Jack about 24 be 25 in August yeah so one of them is is the oldest one proba 30 yeah so so ZD on that I mean uh Desmond bang 26 yeah so that’s perfect he’s considered young he’s the second youngest play on the team Marcus SM 30 after you even call him old for yeah he’s he was old rookie but he’s young young for yeah for sure I now that we starting to talk about it more I see them now as even though they’re in the west you can put them on the East they would have a chance like I like that’s what I said like before like oh they’re they’re R down said I said that the West is just so stacked we’re going to talk about it later in the show and we will see where the G stack like I like them now I like against the rest of the West look when you spread it out you’re like all right they got some potential yeah when you open up the team like okay well let’s shift over to the W we got to talk more about uh these two super rookies and Caitlin Clark and Angel reath both continued to look impressive as their battle for Rookie of the Year heats up so reset a new WNBA record with their 13 straight double double on Sunday Against The Storm dropped her 14th double double today in a win against the dream and after being named rookie of the month for June ree became the first rookie in WNBA history to be named player of the week as well Kayla Clark made some history of her own this weekend becoming the first rookie to mess around and drop a triple double 19 points 12 rebounds 13 assists and a comeback win on the Liberty Clark is on Pace to become the first player in W history to average 16 plus points seven plus assists in a season so Lexi got to start with you how impressive have Caitlin Clark and Angel re been so far in their rookie seasons and do you expect either of them to hit a rookie wall especially considering that you guys are going to take a break now for Allstar will that benefit them will that hurt them I mean I think it benefits them like they have they’re all stars which is amazing they’re going to have some time to rest mentally physically um I don’t I think they hit their rookie wall like already like it’s over okay I think both teams are still like in the process of adjusting to them but like you’re seeing those two two teams building their future around their rookies and that’s something that I haven’t seen in a while which I think is amazing for them kayin almost had another triple double tonight I think she was very close or today um it’s been good to see I mean it’s been it’s been good to see them be able to work out their rookie season and get through it while getting like game experience cuz I know our team like our schedule like we barely practice so you don’t really have time to work on things and figure things out as a rookie so them being able to figure it out in game Real Time and being successful um is good for them and I do want to give a shout out to our rookie Ria Jackson shout out to Ria Jackson like if we were if we were winning some more games I think she would be in this R of the Year race for sure she’s been she been doing her really yeah she’s been really fighting her way and I’m like really happy and proud of her so you talk about Kaylin day Kaylin had 29 Points 13 assists five rebounds and a loss to the Washington Miss they also were down 21 in the four quarter that’s lost by five yeah lost by five so when you look at these two rookies um all the hype that was coming in before they’re both living up to it um it’s it’s the it’s I guess it’s the media and the fan base trying to put them to against each other like this is still college right um where what they’re both doing is makinging history right it’s it’s not whose history is better is they’re both making history they’re both they’re both doing something different right one’s a guard one’s a big right the uh uh Reese double double does not change Caitlin CL Caitlin’s C triple double doesn’t change there um um Reese’s she might get a triple double one day one maybe but she’s a she’s going to be a double double Queen how she plays that’s going to be she already is know what I’m saying but what I’m saying is she’s going to the way she’s her trajectory she might break the alltime double double record right because rebounding is what she’s good that’s her gift her offense is this is the bottom end of her offense right this is this is the worst she’s going to be offensively she’s only going to get better so those numbers is going to be she’s going to be averaging 22 and 12 or 14 one of these years she’s going to be a dominant Force Caitlin KP is going to be on the verge of playing like Luca two three years from now she’s going to be averaging 22 8 and seven n and seven right so these if you if you separate and just watch them individually and stop pe oh you talk about Ken carton people go what about Reese you talk about re what about appreciate both of their games separately just look at them separately they’re both doing great and who wins the who wins the this is the problem with the Rookie of the Year whoever wins it the other one got cheated the other one’s going to feel like they got cheated because they’re both history is being done that’s why I said it’s easier for both for both to win it’s it’s kayin gets a few more triple doubles it’s still one even though she gets a few more triple doubles you got one who holds a record of double double like it’s just one of those Seasons that you’re like you know what n you know we’re not doing this what are we not doing we’re not doing this doing what what someone got to win no we’re not doing this you know why cuz that [ __ ] was [ __ ] beautiful and I was over here like do I sway with y’all [ __ ] or no cuz that [ __ ] does like it it’s the doing is like incredible it is and what I’m proud of I’m proud of Chicago and I’m proud of Indiana because I’ve been around this and there are some Hating Ass coaches there’s some Hating Ass players in this league that would have like stomped that [ __ ] out so fast and they’re on two teams that absolutely did not allow that to happen and I’m like I’m going to credit Chicago and Indiana for that cuz I’ve seen that [ __ ] happen in real time on other teams with other players where they see something amazing brewing with their rookie or young players and they’re like [ __ ] her absolutely not do you do you think that because of the media was so strong they had they had to conform fast cuz we seen we seen fever at the beginning of the season and the [ __ ] let they looking like know you going to sit on the floor and all that media is sitting there like well she need some new teammates they say girl let’s Tik Tock all that dot we with you we with you I said y’all better get right y’all getting left getting left let me tell on both sides her passing ability was going to show up before her scoring came so y’all are going to benefit more from knocking down these open shots and be able to play with her on the floor because she’s going to get you the ball mhm we not doing this you know why somebody got a win somebody so if we in entertainment right and we going this person versus this person this team versus this team we love both teams we bias we we don’t know who gonna win we don’t know who we want to win but guess what you can’t tie you can’t [ __ ] tie they do it all the time no when was the last what was the last co- work you of the years in NBA was it J kid and grood and Jason kid think about playing so well that it was like think about the competitiveness the landscape of what size you got to pick now you think about how we’ve always tried to unify all of this stuff like why do we got to like if one wins which that is very possible that one of them does win it’s going to be a [ __ ] storm no it’s not going to be Beautiful cuz everyone’s now watching we wasn’t watching before cuz it wasn’t the reason this like the perfect setup for the co rookie of the year they are so nah we don’t want peace love and what respect that could be the Steve Francis own brand you got that’s what I say it’s it because it’s not two guards it’s this is not guard this is a guard in the center so how do we how do you J what criter do it every year now cuz know what I’m saying Isam if the voters are this like let’s put the voters this all right Shaq is a voter Duncan’s a voter embiid’s a voter right Curry’s a voter and Kyrie’s a voter what’s going go Angel re Angel re win cuz the three bigs all [ __ ] black on that all of them black they going to pick Angel the three bigs value the double double now the guards value what she’s doing so the guards see Caitlyn Clark the big see how hard what angur so it’s two different slides but they’re both playing great we all are players even even you saying guards are this b or this but we all know wholeheartedly who deserves to be the Rookie of the Year based on record based on what you do for your team points and all the stats that’s around it I look at angel Reese and I say she’s doing exactly what she’s supposed to do mhm yeah well I mean because you’re you’re underrated you’re underrated as a rebounder you’re proven that you should be respected not only as a rebounder but as a force period of presence wait who underrated her as a rebounder no that I did oh I did I underrated her as I didn’t know I didn’t know if she could do it in in absolutely I’m not so I wanted to see it so now that I see it and it’s like okay she deserves everything that she’s getting for as far as recognition but then Caitlyn expectations for her were already here the team that she spool feeding and keep dropping the [ __ ] eggshells all over the place imagine if she’s picking up six more assists she’s getting three more rebounds and she’s putting the ball in the basket more because they’re not really just trying to deny her every like I look at the potential of what happens when you make it even you make it even well that’s what I said if they if they switch teams no if when Kaylin doesn’t get the all the pressure defensively that’s what you’re asking right cuz she’s making she has she has to overcome more than Angel does so she K Kaylin today 29 Points 13 assists five rebounds five steals three B like she said she’s turning realiz that but they’re what I’m saying is they’re they’re both turning one has the ball the whole time the other one has to get the ball and make her own play yes right and that’s not her attribute her attribute is not scoring right right but the fact that she’s still averaging the like she’s still getting points nobody had her literally nobody had her averaging double double but if she’s getting us 10 or 12 or even 14 a game and that’s unexpected that’s you getting dimed off oh I got a quick one quick one here give me 10 and I know I’m going to get 10 boards that’s a double double just about how many times I get the ball to get my 10 points Caitlyn on the other hand I got to come off the pick and roll I got so much more do but but that’s what I say the fact is we seen what Caitlyn looked like in college right and because of her points was very high no one want no one else looked at her passing ability me huh yeah you did so what ends up happening is her her her biggest attribute is actually her passing ability yes so there’s going to be a there’s going to be a year where she leads the league in assess who’s doing right now but but but that’s what I’m saying but that’s going to be so like that’s what I said 2 3 years from now there’s going to be a time where Caitlyn surpasses just people in the league because of her stats is going to be crazy across the board Alysa she’s second second right now she finish she could be the assist leader this year imagine if they actually finishing her layup so now we have I would put her assist and then Angel rebounds angel angel leading the league rebounds neutralize neutralize that angel leading the league rebounding Caitlin probably will finish leading and assist no you got to go Angel’s rebounding and Caitlyn’s points because we knew her points is going to be there we knew her rebound was going to be there we didn’t know Caitlyn’s assist was going to be here we didn’t know I did Reese’s rebound or points was going to be here that’s what I said they’re both they’re both doing and I don’t I don’t want to if you gave it to both of them I think both of them will sit there and say look what look what we’re doing I that because cuz you need a villain you need a [ __ ] that’s mad I didn’t win no you don’t want a Gordon you don’t want a Gordon you don’t want a Gordon in the dunk cont Joker yes you do don’t you need that fire that’s what creates the fire that can ruin it creates the fire the fact that I was running up it was me and you head to head and you beat me out and now I got to figure out why well she never going to because they’re not they’re they’re never going to guard each other it’s not even about it becomes IND it becomes envious you don’t want you don’t need that in this sport no it becomes magic they’re same position like there I’m talking not going to be anything that either one they can both play out of their mind respectively and it’s never going to matter it ain’t about it it ain’t it you got Magic versus bird not small for they’re small fors no he was a point guard no he was a small forward they were small forward one just had a different G but it’s a a point guard and a exactly so look regardless of the position it’s always going to be the center she regardless regardless of the of the position you have now a dynamic where people can identify with one or the other but why can’t we love both of them because everyone’s not the same everyone has their tears where they want go this situation so beautiful cuz you can appreciate so many aspects of the game you don’t want to Gordon I’m trying to tell you dog you do not want someone who feels like they were ripped off so bad to the point where they’re dis aded with the league itself hey that’s too bad and that’s what ends up happening work harder so now I don’t want to now I don’t want to be a part your ass in the lab 10 more push-ups cuz you stopped early last time and that’s why you didn’t get that last rebound that could have got you to a war 10 more points you missed 20 layups in three games that person won’t feel that person won’t feel that it’s because of their players going to be F because you cheated me now I’m looking at you like that now I hate now I hate you did you get cheated whoever who did you get Che whoever got whoever wins it the other one feels cheated no he can’t feel cheated listen in who won the dunk she broke the record in boxing if you get a draw in boxing you don’t feel cheated unless you just knew you were winning broke the first 20 games of the Season her rookie year who won the dunk contest what does that mean between Gordon and Zack LaVine Gordon W it right no that’s why he hates the dunk contest no he hates it he hates Dwayne Wade no he hates the gave him a n he hates the whole He no he hates the Wayne Wade video about music video about it but he hates he like just because and we hate it for you have to choose a winner a loser doesn’t like when he loses cuz you had to pick the other nigg L cuz Dwayne way was being a weird hater dude yeah but it could have went it could have went even could even but there ain’t no evens you got to somebody so we got to depend on person let me tell who is Dwayne way to the community is he a weird hater person or is he let me tell [ __ ] that we just let me tell you what happens though the way it went this person does not want to perform anymore this man won he don’t want to perform anymore so now your two biggest draws don’t want to perform ever again if they tie the following year one has to say he’s the winner so you have both of them back the next year for a but that going to stop them from being lightskinned them two like s light should have came back anyway nobody cuz that’s how y’all act we got you’re acting sensitive and [ __ ] cuz cuz you lost and you won [ __ ] are inou with their em all that man it’s a dunk contest bro like we we are in touch with our emotions at I so who you going for y’all going for both I’m both both see I know you’re lying under them goddamn eyelashes I’m going for Clarice CL CL that’s how they do when he bind both of them chor I know you’re lying under of them lashes so just so we’re clear LaVine B Gordon then Gordon came back next year lost to drick Jones J twice oh no first time and Wade gave him the nine I think in that D oh okay just yeah I don’t know I’m not going to say who I think because I think they’re both doing amazing things and they’re both breaking records every week so good thing we don’t have to decide right now we will see we also not a voter so we have a break to re-calibrate get our barri we choose the front runner right now I just don’t I just FR Runner right now is Kaitlyn I just don’t like I just don’t like to you’re in a position where both girls are in a great spirit they’re they’re they’re they’re happy they’re doing things with the idea of everything is fair I don’t know whoever whoever loses I don’t I don’t know if either one of them accepts it because from from their lens they’re doing what it takes right Angel re I’m sorry but Angel Reese for who she has to play against the big girls the physical girls and yeah oh she’s shooting 30% she’s getting her offensive rebounds she’s getting the offensive rebound right so she’s getting it back and putting it back in so it don’t M she’s doing what it takes for her position the other one too right so they’re both facing adversity so we can’t say who roll old is harder if they both get to the top it’s like I got to reward you both since this is what you’re doing if one was averaging 10 and seven and it’s like but a double double is a [ __ ] double double it’s it’s hard it’s hard for me to just say one or the other I’m S I can’t I can’t if we in the game you got to pick one or the other you can’t pick both who you pick that’s why Co you pick right unless there’s a big like like it’s like one of those if if it goes down to the end and one has a triple double and and one doesn’t right I mean one doesn’t have the double double and her record get broke and then you give it to her offer the triple double I like Ah that’s sucked up like someone has to you know we wouldn’t do it that way what I’m saying is someone has to in the next few after Allstar break someone has to jump high cuz right now where they are that [ __ ] even if it’s 50.5 to 49.5 I still don’t feel comfortable saying 50.5 wins if if it’s a a triple overtime right triple overtime tie game two seconds left missed the shot guess what we doing we’re going into the fourth overtime right somebody got to win this [ __ ] somebody got to win but nobody has that so War this is overtime so I’m asking y’all to put this in the scenario where you somebody got to win no ain’t no Coes so they no CES even even cuz even with the what they’re doing together as rookies with all that pressure all that attention all that negativity from both sides both sides both sides are horrible to each other the girls Bas are but there’s not a not like us there’s not a not like us right now dra no there’s not a not like us right now no there’s no nothing like us their game their game has like completely surpassed this fake beef no no no how about this it’s over Indiana the Indiana Fever or seventh place no no no who wins who wins who’s winning the the beef before Utopia comes out Drake because he already put out two dis Euphoria Euphoria Euphoria before that okay so like okay now Euphoria comes out who’s winning it’s a tie okay that’s where we are right now but no we’re not no are no we’re not there’s no what do you mean V tracks still dropped still has an album is Kendrick have ALB now ain’t even done on yall but I’m saying but that’s what I’m saying right now there’s no there’s no not like us or family M there it’s not yet how we say that triple double was not like us triple double the first triple double 13 double double another one first triple double it’s aord broke the WBA broke a record and I broke a record Angel broke the W the W the one set of rookie record one broke a w record listen Caitlyn would have broken a whole [ __ ] basketball record by now if they would catch the ball and lay it up see no catch the ball up no no no look look when it comes to Caitlyn’s turnovers I don’t they’re not they’re not her turnovers five of them but those are not real five turnovers those are adjustment like the her team remember I said it her teammate didn’t understand that this is what she does they didn’t know that someone passes the ball like this like with J kid four turnovers and say her passion ability you got to geted to it freaking level and everyone was like she going to average 30 I no she’s not she going to leave Le assist pass her passing ability and her scoring ability right that’s two things right okay all right now rebound angel angel who rebound Angel rebound and what else rebound rest my case like two to one hey look like magic magic magic came to the league averaging four turnovers they didn’t exp know he passed the ball like that so they not even looking boom too early to just be like this is the winner this is it’s tied right now it’s tied right now extremely so we asked the chat who will win WNBA Rookie of the Year over 5,000 voters currently Angel ree in the leag with 51% of the vote see it’s close 51% those are half there’s two Americans they’re both United and it’s still 51% yeah you probably thought it was going to be like 80% % 80% Caitlin no I thought I thought people be honest be honest what I’m saying they they remember few week and now they’re like okay Ang got a little [ __ ] to her which I we all that’s I said that’s why I said 51% that I I’m not comfortable with that yet that’s why I said there has right now there has to be something that puts him like if she keeps going and she 20 something and then the other one’s two more triple doubles she still tied someone has to fall getting double doubles cuz even the way she got her double double today her teammate like fed her the ball at the end of the game to go get her see and that’s going to be and that’s what’s going to happen what’s going to happen is her teammates when they realize cuz they know this double double is holding you ground just like everybody knows uh Kaylin cark assist they going to be doing they going start making shot y remember y’all remember that do y remember to Shaquille O’Neal Indiana fever’s uh field goal percentage talking about David Robinson y remember Shaquille O’Neal David Robinson right they fighting for the scoring title Shaquille O’Neal decided to sit his ass out cuz he thought he won Y and David Robinson team was like how many points he need 60 something all right big fella there you go there you go there you go and he got his 72 was it a real 72 these next 20 games both of them you know what’s so funny no one even questioned was that patting the stats was that patent the stats we have internet back then for what it was it was when his teammates was like oh you can get the scoring title if you average as many points and it just force fed him the whole time and he scored 72 the last game against the Clippers no one talks about that is that a real 72 on the books it says it but in reality was it I’m not going to diminish what Angel does cuz it looks easy to her that’s great great that [ __ ] don’t look easy know what I’m saying is if if a e if a rookie is making it look easy godamn it let’s go they both making it look easy right now and I can’t wait the next season hey both y’all ladies congratulation Co MVP let’s get into next season hell no you on this side side not going to do as now both C now both cities got a got a uh Rookie of the Year wo [ __ ] if I can throw third [ __ ] in there I would separate that separate that wh’s over here blacks over here stay over there in your mind stay in your let’s keep this Ming come over here okay let’s keep this water fountain is over there you got your own water fountain WBA being the water fountain for everybody R let’s this somebody got to win sh if we win you get you get the water fountain this week [ __ ] don’t you want want to drink out that water [Applause] fountain let’s keep this thing moving want to now you know what’s funny though what’s funny is no matter how you look at it it goes back to there it’s like Indiana Fever White City Chicago for sure that’s what I say one time like it just makes it it it just makes it for the jokes that we just can’t help it it be let it be bro why don’t the themselves it’s one of those things in the playoffs I I don’t know if I don’t know if you can get away with it during these times but like I don’t know if y’all know about the Philippines the Philippine leagues when two Rivals is going against each other there’s no mixed crowd one group sits on one side and the other group sits on the other side it’s not mixed so if you’re going for the Chicago game versus the fever game yeah yeah all all Chicago fans y all over there we going to cut it in half fever side don’t come now y’all get the chin back and forth back like in high school that [ __ ] would be fun that would be real Raiders ners fun as what they didn’t they just do something they put their games on I don’t like that what I don’t like that what they put their games on at the same time the WNBA yep yeah and oh today and what’s going to happen is obviously Kaylin Clark is going to get more views on her game than the other one then you’re GNA try to use that narrative I don’t like I don’t like that pack that up yeah I don’t like that with the Nar soon as I seen that I was like appr appreciate the Rook it should have been like backto back game it should have been like boom boom appreciate let’s keep this thing moving so during the week of the NBA draft the Nets and Rockets made an interesting move swapping some future first round picks Shams had that report uh the Nets were uh traded the Suns 2025 pick Swap and 2027 first rounder and a first rounder and a swap in 2029 to the rockets for their own 202 five pick swap in 2026 first rounder from the James Harden trade wait what but why would he even type that out in confusing but this this was before the draft just but there’s there was some reasoning behind it so word on the street is a rocket could be looking to try and make a move for either Kevin Durant or Dev Booker in the near future if the Suns don’t live up to the hype so in response huh the Rockets the Rockets the Rockets So in response to those reports Sons owner Matt ishbia dropped the following tweet hours before the first round of the draft he said the following he said the NBA draft night is the best everyone talking about the drama and storyline some are right some are just wrong my turn Phoenix loves Kevin Durant Kevin Durant loves Phoenix and we are competing for a championship this year because we have the team to do it Gotta Love draft night go Sons so we now fast forward during an interview with Yahoo sports is Vince Goodwill at Team USA training camp KD addressed the trade rumors effectively put them to bed were you online on draft night when everybody was saying can’t it’s hard now to hear what they got to say about you you know what I’m saying it’s like yeah cuz especially then you could just make up lies like everybody going to believe you like you could just press the KD want the leave button anytime you want some attention you think it’s a button yes it’s a for sure a button what else is going to get people going around this time besides oh the the the the journey man is leaving again that storyline going to always hit you know the people you know what I’m saying that’s why they send you the alerts on ESPN on your phone KD is thinking about leaving that’s how big that story is which is whack cuz I’m talking to Phoenix every day all you know since the season ended like our our GMS coaches everybody we’ve been locked in so it’s like to say hear somebody say well Phoenix does Phoenix wants to get out of the KD sweep something sitting there like where is this coming from so we actually had a button we ordered off of Amazon Prime it was delivered let me is coming from sources there should be a rule moving forward that as journalists you should never be allowed to use sources because just sources because well because if it’s not a real because if it’s not a real person if it’s not a real person that someone can go fact check then it’s just you lying saying it right that’s just how it is sources say this person said this okay who’s the source so we can check to see if it’s valid cuz if not then but what if the what if the source can’t put their name on it because they don’t want to lose their job then they shouldn’t be saying it because it shouldn’t like as you shouldn’t be able you should legally and tweet about whatever you want to don’t use wouldn’t that destroy the very fabric of Journalism though was predicated on sources giving information you shouldn’t be it’s you can’t do it in court you can’t say my source told me Reveal Your Source ah ah can’t you can’t that’s what I’m saying it should be illegal who’s the source in this situation whoever wrote it at this point the facts are the source no the facts you know what the facts are no what are the facts Rashad does Kevin Durant have a I want to leave button like what does Kevin Durant have a beep I want to leave button has he pushed this button before he has left how many times has he pushed this Kevin Durant he don’t got it on the Move button you don’t got it no more I’m just asking the question so I can just kind of lay this thing out for you about why it made sense what you’re saying but the facts are the facts is that you have been a journeyman and you have been on the move and that button has been pushed before so even if the journalists don’t have sources what they do have is a timeline but his point he’s making is that people use that story just to get clicks and conversation instead of them going to do their job you allowed me to do that based on an insinuation on what your past have looked looked like your past have looked like if it don’t go well here and I don’t win here I’m going to go here I’m going go here I’m going go here call a journey so so exactly what saying that because you guys call me the journeyman you guys can sit there and push the button of Katie wants to leave and because of the resume you believe it even if no one in my organization we don’t even think about you get to use it tomorrow they can come during Olympus hey Sons is thinking about moving K KD fake sources say it’s a it’s you can’t you can’t sit there and do that it’s but it sounds real though why because he’s left cuz he’s left and that’s the only reason why it seems unfair to him and it seems like the media shouldn’t be able to do it but the fact that they can do it is the fact that you have left and that’s the only reason why is the button is there and we can use that button on anybody’s past mistakes or past anything you be like hey man you’ve done it you can’t say you can’t say just they’re not pulling [ __ ] out of thin air are KD might be on the move I don’t got no views today if I don’t have no views today and there’s no story lines up hey we got this button Katie’s leaving oh [ __ ] Katie’s about to leave now he’s sitting there looking on Twitter Katie about to leave what the [ __ ] now he going to call somebody hey y’all trying to trade me no you trying to leave no what the [ __ ] is going on here what is he supposed to what is the person on the phone supposed to say yeah I feel like if your player ask you you no cuz you know not to be honest it’s business not personal of course not hey who the [ __ ] told Kev we was trying to move hey have you noticed who the [ __ ] told ke hey bring him in here he’s [ __ ] fired we supposed to be doing this under the table who told him and how did it get to Kevin already have you not have you noticed it’s never sources inside organizations anymore it’s just the word sources yes just like I told you with Stephen A he was I told you that waying what I’m saying is it’s not even sources in the Suns or sources on because because if you say sources in the organization now the organization get to start looking ACC what do you think this sh is coming from but sources sources is not allowed to speak publicly on the matter yeah like sources can’t name like when sources don’t got their own [ __ ] phone they can call you the funny thing about the world we live in now is it’s usually easy cuz it’s only like four or five people who know the [ __ ] so process of elimination usually if I’m James Bond and I’m undercover don’t [ __ ] blow my [ __ ] cover let me do I’m cool I’m the one giving you this inside information relax Point people are releasing these statements because they want traffic to their pages and their stor not true it’s people inside the camps that’s releasing information these journalists are they are un should and they don’t be caring like but so you saying 100% of this [ __ ] is not true all the time when we hear it I would say more of it is untrue than true or some of the sources actually leak the [ __ ] and we actually hear the truth and we have to make sure that [ __ ] doesn’t get out as fast as possible when has any of it pinned out yeah when you when you sit there and hear some of these things like can [ __ ] the Paul George [ __ ] what was that what what what did it say week that that Philly had 212 available they would go for him if he opted out they did it two weeks before that who Source say they didn’t say it they not going to say this no who who reported it I think it was sham uh Shams or wge one of them we got to look one of them if if you scratch a Sniff and do a little digging it’s usually pretty easy to figure out where these things are com once it came out that PG could potentially opt out it popped up that we can give you the money we’ll give you the money boom now he now he know somebody just leaked it out where was the sources when I look at now when I look at real stories real stories that happened this summer where were sources then where was the [ __ ] Source on Klay Thompson moving there was no Source what was the sources say ah they’re not going to sign him he might be leaving there was no Source it was oh [ __ ] clay clay clay unfollowed the goldest day Warrior clay was the source clay he unfollowed Gordon state that was a real thing there was no sources behind what was the sources behind when they denied his 20 his 2-year 20 there was no sources then right no the first time we felt that there was [ __ ] it’s because he pushed the unfollow button then everybody oh [ __ ] there was no there was no there was no person that came out and said there was a problem going on the source ended up being Klay Thompson the whole time it’s always the source of the player but but I’m saying if we’re talking about finding the source in the Klay Thompson situation it was him because he was the one that was holding on to the information about I’m not signing back with them because they didn’t take care of me when I wanted them to then what was the Golden State source that was a what I’m saying is where’s the sources on real things that’s happening that’s that was a real thing Happ when it’s when it’s real about thear going to Sacramento no damn Source it was it did it was a source that came out before that deal came it was the source that came before an hour before they signed three a before who was who reported it potential I think W report after after after he’ unsigned the contract they was like Sacramento Kings are in talks with a signning trade for Demar demard de rozan I remember in talks signed in signning trade when he signed when did we find out when he sign when the Lakers didn’t sign when we found out the Lakers couldn’t take take the deal down we found out the Lakers dropped the ball that was the only reason he did the deal cuz he couldn’t go to La yeah we don’t see no sources on no deals it’s just always some fluff [ __ ] fake trades y it’s a little unfair to say that every report has been wrong like all the time and it’s like wrong to say what’s the percentage cuz if you’re going to say what I’m saying is if you’re going to say s if you can say sour retic story for example was correct se’s initially saying that was correct that’s just one re was going to yeah when we say no what I’m saying number what I’m saying is when we say C said that as well when when we say sources I definitely said it way before sham said it when we say but when we say mon what is the percentage of the source actually being right it’s hard to calculate that because you’re going to be when you say sourc and you’re getting real information from a real person you have to be batting about 90 95% you can’t be the weather man are literally told not to reveal their sources that’s how they’re trained so it’s just the opposite you’re saying and they’re legally protected since you did bring up legally protected by who they don’t have to reveal their sources so then you can make it up I’m saying so well that’s what social media is doing now that is that is a very real thing as well saying so you can legally like if I want to be popping and I need traction I can just make it up and hide behind the word sources that that’s true Gil but if you are wrong a number of times in a row you lose credibility and no one listens to you but here’s the good thing if you’re wrong just switch it up oh he was going to go to the leg but then the ks came in at the last minute that’s the question is how many times has the source or the journalist that has the S been wrong because they just you just move on to Source been a actual person and not the person just typing the [ __ ] out you have to be wrong as a journalist pushing out that this Source gave you this information then we would have to find out who the source is that’s what I’m saying but you have to be wrong for that how am I wrong in order for us to find out that your source is your Source you have to be wrong so us to say who gave you that information bro that so if I make a statement and say sources my sources tell me that uh Anthony Davis is on a chopping blocks to be traded how do you prove that’s real as a journalist yeah no as fans how do you prove that’s real they’re going to say oh we not TR we’re not trying to trade him he going to comment uh what’s going on and there’s no proof there I just made it up you oh sources say they they decided they going to keep them well that’s you know what I mean is the beauty of Journalism that’s the like when when I went to try to get the the the lawyers on the MB uh the National Basketball Players Association to talk on my behalf for collusion and they told me that I needed a certain amount of information that I couldn’t get from sources couldn’t get from sources and and if I can’t prove it I shouldn’t present it because you don’t have no evidence so if you don’t got no evidence for sources like you said they can hide it they can lie they can literally be like man yeah we just didn’t want him so it didn’t have nothing to do with the fact he was injured because if you guys didn’t pick him up cuz he was injured that means we owe him workers compensation right but y’all can all to avoid paying him that money say we just didn’t want him you can literally lie but that’s what I’m saying I don’t like Journal I don’t like Journal like you if you are uh if you are a certain if you had a certain standard of Journalism you should be able to say the source or not report it you shouldn’t just hi behind Source right right now someone can say Memphis is upset with John Morant for what he’s been doing this summer and 99% of of everyone’s going to believe it we don’t know what the [ __ ] he’s been doing this summer we know he ain’t been getting in trouble but you can just put it out there because of the past and it’s going to make sense to everyone but what if the source can say I got plausible deniability I don’t know what you guys are talking about and of course it’s coming from the president or the CEO or the [ __ ] owner coming from him directly to this I want you to put this statement out boom boom boom boom boom you know you can’t say my name but it’s coming from me see how they respond to it now now now now I like I like what you just said if you say a source and we come to the source and the source like I didn’t say none of that but how do we know that the source a ain’t lying that’s what I’m saying how do you know the source is not lying now you just put him under the burner cuz you just denied that you was the source because you don’t want to out yourself now he’s under the burner now when the source give his ass another uh story what are you going to do with it yeah you just burned me last time I’m not going to put this [ __ ] out no more but they still don’t know who the source is but but what I’m saying sometimes these sources need these stories to go out because they got their own personal agenda in the organization and they’re the on trying to trying to shake the [ __ ] or they’re negotiating with the organization cuz we need them yeah cuz we need them we need the journalist so they’re just trying to shake [ __ ] up to see what everyone thinks about if we move KD what would you think yeah sometimes they like just checking the tip yeah let me see what you think about this what you think about this they present it to KD and he’s then he has to respond and they’re like testing him how do you feel are you really loyal to us I just want to be here I just want to man players used to do that [ __ ] in the NBA dog still do they’re talk to him hey man hey man this man ain’t passing the ball enough man don’t see sources say he’s ball hogging now when he write it sources inside the organization say m is ball hog and need to pass the ball a little bit more need to pass it to kill everybody watch now everyone’s watching Poss W be his teamate yeah now he get to go out now he got to go out and give me back the ball every time every time cuz they watching it a’t no real sord think it was me let’s let’s keep this you are SW you are sword let’s keep how you do it if you smart that’s how we did it smart [ __ ] that’s how we did it sh you better pass the ball [ __ ] let’s keep it moving passing G with the ball on purp man s kill that [ __ ] man he don’t give you any viws anyway man let’s keep it moving to our new segment uh back here on Gils Arena since the offseason we want to rank the top tier teams in the playoff picture in each conference on paper so when we say playoff picture we mean top six spots only CU those are the ones that are guaranteed entry not the playin so we ranked the E yesterday so today let’s shift to the Western Conference the couch agrees on where a team should be ranked and they will be added to our extremely sophisticated whiteboard where the official rankings will live uh under fantasy spare no expense to clarify since yesterday there was some confusion teams can move up down the board as new teams are presented we need at least two of the three of our gills R recruit to agree before we can move on if we can’t agree where to rank a team then we will leave it up to the chat and I know none of y’all here want to do that so y’all better get it together and agree so our production team has decided on 12 Western Conference teams that will be vying for these top six spots we’re going to start with Kevin Durant and the Phoenix Suns so they were 49- 33 six in the west last season uh lost in a sweep to the Timberwolves key offseason moves nothing major they did get bo b back that is important the people’s champ bandre B uh Suns big three were 26 and 15 the games they they played together this season but we’re only on the floor for a total 862 minutes 125 minutes in the playoffs when they got 15 okay so where should we rank the Suns amongst our paper Champions damn who’s in [ __ ] that’s a hard one okay so Kevin Durant played 75 games B played 53 so that’s 22 he ain’t play uh9 68 new coach also coach butt in for Mike Bo hoser replacing dirty Frank as some on this couch no man he finished six last year yeah six in the west last this is kind of damn [Applause] might leave them there that’s it five or six I don’t know cuz I’m looking at the top six and I’m like who am I picking out the current top six four I’m going put Sacramento up there yeah I’m taking I’m taking them out you’re taking them out of I might put them right on the outside Lexi you say six or or now they out as well because if you and Rashad come to consensus you have negated Gil’s opinion sons are out sons are out they can move Lexi do you agree with Rashad sons are out’s got in didn’t give me no hope in thinking that the future was going to be well now I’m I’m thinking about the Clippers being out and oh we’re going to talk we’re going to talk all these table keeping the Suns in though and the kings are taking over gotten better gotten better I’m going cuz Clippers gotten worse Mavs got better I think W going to Denver I don’t know you know I can safely say five yeah I’m I said five or six so do you want to say five to agree with Gil we can get a who going be majority rule Denver OKC mineses Dallas Dallas uh Phoenix Lakers Kings King Kings Kings at 5 and then I throw La in there at 6 and then throwing I’m throwing them out 26 and 15 I’m throwing them out and still won 49 games yeah just three guard heavy they just you said five Lexi do you want to agree with Gil at five or do you want to say the suns are out of the mix we need a consensus we do not want to leave this to the chat five is cool so Gil and Lexia both said five five we son Sons at five let’s move on to our next team know y I know the Golden State Warriors No 46 and 36 last season 10th in the west Phoenix at they lost playing to the Kings that’s nasty but they finished they finished they finished six not we have 12 teams and we are on a tight time schedule we got some of us need to pack for Vegas goad some of us need to pack for Vegas go ahead go ahead watch our draws not healthy for who Golden State Warriors 4636 10th in the west last season lost playing game to the Kings key off season moves uh they picked up Kyle Anderson buddy Hill and De Anthony Melton but lost clay to the mths where should the Warriors rank amongst our paper Champions I got out out Warriors are out good job guy quick efficient wow next up the other team in Los Angeles the Clippers out 51 and 30 51 and 31 this season fourth in the west lost in the first round of the map six games uh they resigned James Harden Westbrook opted into the season they got bat Derrick Jones Jr but lost Paul George to the Sixers where should the Clippers rank amongst the pap Champions that’s top six top six locked in playoff spot [ __ ] I mean they got to be out cu else going to move we already moved out uh we have several more teams to go Phoenix yet I’m out Clippers out out Clippers are out we kept Phoenix a sweep clean sleep on the Clippers let’s Phoenix or Clippers being out for me next up let’s move to one of Rashad’s favorite players teams the San Antonio Spurs 22 and 60 14th in the we last season missed the playoffs got Chris Paul Harrison Barnes in that D rozan trait uh drafted Stefan castle out of Yukon where should the Spurs rank amongst our paper Champion they out too yeah they’re out I don’t think that’s enough out Spurs are out but do we think uh just for the sake of conversation do you think the Spurs have a chance at to play in this year yeah facts 100% Spurs are playin caliber team finish top 10 in the west you think they’re going to double Victor wiama can get eight or nine yeah for sure they have with CP and Harrison those two vets that can get the ball you know they can score they can make good plays so so next up they would have to double their wins this going to be a rough West season next up be that’s why there’s 12 teams vying for these six pots next up to Oklahoma City Thunder Thunder were 57- 25 this season first in Adam Silver Western Conference lost in the western semiz to the wolves in six games uh traded Josh giddy for Alex Caruso signed Isaiah hartenstein I got them at four where should the Thunder rank amongst our paper Champions four Lexi has the Thunder at four six Rashad has him at six yeah I’m not mad at 6 I’m not really I’m not fond of the the Caruso giddy I think giddy gave them more but the Harden sty yeah no I’m six too the hardenstein I changed hardenstein where do you feel the Thunder rank Isaiah hartenstein well they got I mean they got a match six so six six six I mean I had him at three Gil had him at three he just wanted to preference but we have majority rule on this couch Thunder are sixth got Dallas Dallas why such a significant drop in your guys mind from first in the west last season cuz other teams got better did they not get better adding not as better as the other former Laker Alex to me is like when you look at OKC and the way that they got to that spot they just played hard hard nose you know play consistent throughout the season young team young team and you know when you play that way you’re going to take games from from teams that don’t come in thinking well now yeah they got a Target on their back now they got a Target now we see that you got now they expect we know what to expect so it be different yeah it’ll be all right so now let’s move on Sacramento Kings our next team they were 4636 ninth in the west lost in the final playing game to the Pelicans after knocking The Warriors out have to say that so they acquired demard de Rosen via signning trade traded Harrison Barnes also resign Malik monk where should the Kings rank amongst our paper Champions four you got have to go four since y’all got five I was going to have him five but four is good four good Lexi you say four for the king Gil where you putting the Kings even though majority’s already ruled just want to know I mean they were only they weren’t that many games behind they were like five three to between three and five games out of it was a very very very tough Western Conference this P I want to see how many games did the best player play about fox or sabon saon both both of them sabonis played more I think he close again IR maybe he’ll get some love this year cuz he deserves it fact so Fox played 74 games it’s a lot sabon play 82 and sabon played 82 he needs to get way more and where they finish ninth out out Gil has the Kings out where do you have them huh I had him at four we had at what up majority rules they’re two best players the two best players played damn near the whole season and that’s where they were but they now they Demar five wins behind sixth place and now they have Demar so you add D roen you fighting for six so Gil Gil said they were out but Rashad and Lexi both said fourth so we have a majority rule on that kings are fourth based on that so let’s recap quickly I I would have put him in I would have put him at eighth you guys have War Warriors Clippers and Spurs out currently have thunder in six suns in fifth Kings in fourth let’s move on to the most important team in this discussion the Los Angeles Lakers 47 and 35 Seventh in the west inseason tournament champions the first inseason tournament championship in NBA history man that seems so long ago Banner number 18 you know when you champ seem along seem a powerful a powerful unfortunately that derail the rest of their season focusing on the most important Championship the hardest one to win they drafted do connect andon James where should the Lakers rank amongst our paper Champions also one Gil has Lakers one baby canot I can’t find any reason to argue with that wait just hear me out though hear Gil out we got LeBron James okay they do have LeBron right that’s like we that’s like donkey who you negotiating with her or me I’m just saying like you talking to her or you we got Donkey Kong right I can do this when you say that no no say it again Know video we got Donkey Kong and now we got Donkey Kong Jr right that’s a better game not if we that’s a better game better game by a lot of standard that was not play on that system no more did did not Diddy Kong was nice we don’t got it right so I’m just saying we got two LeBron James is on the court not just one are two we got two two LeBron on the leg when Big James gets hurt we can put his DN we put the little DNA in there hype him back up I’m going one that’s what y’all got uh I’m gonna use my veto power and and do what you guys vote do not count out we we no I’m just kidding so Gil has Lakers one but Rashad and Lexi both have Lakers out unfortunately due to the rules which have now become very annoying majority rules Lakers are out you’re right we should have changed the rules just sit your little ass over there Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong junor Donkey who J never had two James LeBron we have two LeBron James on the roster watching from the sideline today career points leaders combined so our next team up is the New Orleans Pelicans 49 and 33 they were eighth in the west got the eighth seed after getting the win over the kings in the playing tournament they were swept in the first round by the Thunder they got de jonay Murray but lost valent Tunis to the Wizards where do the Pelicans rank we we go ahead and fill in lost lost doing this far so out two outs for Pelicans out of here yeah [ __ ] out of here it’s tough when you just look at one two three left on the board right yeah yeah you know what you know what that is next up this one’s going to be tough Minnesota Timberwolves 56 and 26 third in the west lost to the Mavs in the Western Conference Finals in five games signed Joe Engles also acquired Rob Dillingham and a TR where should the Jo Les Jo Jo Les where should the Wolves rank amongst our paper Champions they were three last year were tied for no threeway tie threeway TI I got him at two two yeah two ah Timber wolv moving up they did lose Kyle Anderson also known as Lee K oh [ __ ] Lee oh no don’t get him started on Lee KY in China oh man don’t we lost a whole Four Points good get give you a live to regret that uh oh Mr B Brandon Jennings is just entered the arena he’s he just pulled up for our post show meeting uh obviously got swept by Kyon not in a particularly good move right now D you can’t even hear mad as [ __ ] not very but timber wolves to let’s keep it moving the Grizzlies of Memphis 2755 13th in the west they missed the playoffs drafted Zack Edy out of do getting a healthy J rent Desmond Bane Marcus mark back where should the Grizzlies rank amongst our paper Champions I they’re out but after our little dialogue that’s why I tried to set you guys up earlier in the show they’re Fringe I feel like n cuz we could have we could have orchestrated this [ __ ] a little bit better the Lakers could have been in I think Denver can be out what we will get you them shortly I feel like I feel like Denver Denver’s days are number not mad I thinking top six who did they lose they just lost who they lost kcp and um Reggie Jackson we are not talking about them currently we are talking about the Memphis Grizzlies okay we appreciate the conversation always Shi some [ __ ] we were not we could have slid the Lakers in at six but you put the Sun there I’m I’m in I’m Limbo with the Suns even being there which then says the Suns got to fight against the Pelicans and the Clippers depending on the who the Warriors get they might even make a run for top six depending on how the season go but I see Denver in there like scrambling we are talking Grizzlies Denver Denver out Grizzlies are out Griz okay so now let’s move on to our next team the Dallas Mavericks 50 and 32 this season fifth in the west reached the NBA Finals lost in five games of the Celtics got Klay Thompson inside and train but lost Tim Hardway Jr and Derrick Jones Jr where should the Mavs be on our paper Champion board one MAV at the the top team in the western conference right now well they they didn’t they end up they was Champions right they won the West they won the West Fair without Klay Thompson that is a very valid point valid Rashad says number one Lexi what are you feeling where did they ring last year five they were fifth in the west last season I me [ __ ] y’all got me y got me second yeah I don’t I as long as Y is on FL yeah y’all want to move y’all want to move Timberwolves to the one spot N I like Dallas regular season ah cuz think about that think about timber wolves what they were struggling with they didn’t get better at the things they were struggling with he I don’t not see Dall I don’t see Dallas being a number one team in regular season number one they’re too small now oh they’re too they going I think even trying to figure that part out with them three that’s a better big three with that the Suns got no to me as far as playing not maybe not individually but together together them three I’m just thinking about defensively that they were bad last year Lucas bad last year and they still made it all the way to the the top of the West I mean that just that’s but they didn’t their record didn’t say that they were the best they had they were at fifth right yeah they fifth last year but then Kyrie miss a lot Kye Miss and there’s no clay trades in the middle of the Season you depending on Derek Jones Jr to hit threes for you now you got clay yeah but now yeah you left 42 in vertical defensively for 32 in Washington move to his spot man get in the gym get that vertical up 32 in vertical then you got Kyrie with his vertical and Luca with his 21in vertical that’s that’s very hard that’s a small metric of stats that we need to cover the bases of we need scoring we going to get 18 a game from this dudee we got rid of Tim Hardway Jr and we need a shooter that’s a guy right there that’s that’s man they’re definitely number one in the west you would put so rad Mavs at number one Lexi and Gil we need your vote we do not want to let the chat get involved no it’s because I don’t I don’t number one you’re right because I don’t think Denver’s number one either that’s why I said it’s easier to say maybe Minnesota at once that’s not one either got out play not one’s never one play outplayed then without Klay Thompson from to one man the best team in the west Gafford and Lively I’ll play Rudy and Cat and Nas Reed I’m mad about that thunder cuz well you would take oh gosh Thunder we need to answer Thunder and the uh the Thunder and Denver to me man toss up with the Lakers you can throw them in there one they one of them three Thunder under um certain teams played good last were you were you were you were you say were you say Denver’s going what pick outside he said out outside outside no they’re not going out they go seven they’re not going past six Joker hasn’t been Joker hasn’t had any setbacks in the last five years right he ain’t took no Seasons off nothing I don’t know he’s he’s skinny now too last report go play in the Olympics right yeah he’s playing in the Olympics who no kcp no Reggie Jackson you ain’t really got no bench Gordon ain’t is he I don’t think they’re the number one team but Jamal Murray them three Jamal Murray Gordon and Joker n that enough Michael Porter Jr gotta come back and be a real star he ain’t I’m not he might and what if he does compared to everybody else’s lineups the king’s better than than than than Denver to me right now I’m matching up Sab sabon on paper cuz we don’t know sabonis versus Joker I I think we got Thunder too low about the sun they should be about the Suns shouldn’t be in there bro the Lakers should be in there instead of the sun we should put the Suns at 6 the Thunder at four and the Kings at five but then you still have Denver do you think Denver I I don’t know if Denver is going to be better than I don’t know as long as jok is just healthy and playing they got a chance to be T where where are we putting the maths they need a full roster we can move Ms need a full roster how did why did the yes why did the uh Denver lose to the Timberwolves cuz they had Jamal Murray in Hell match up there match up problems Jamal Murray’s cfish they didn’t have enough no they just match up problem Denver didn’t have enough match up problems Denver did not have enough so we need they knew if they took Jamal Murray out the game it would just be joking but if they didn’t played Minnesota they would have been in that’s we can’t think about the the the the playoffs we got to think about how they play in regular season they barely beat the Lakers on the on the buzzer beater but they beat them twice but they beat them that’s the nicest thing you said about the Lakers in a long time saying just I’m just showing you where where the nuggets are when you come to looking at their they didn’t perform like it be thunder Timber Wars number one so we have the Dallas Mavericks we need to put them in a spot Mavericks are three Mavericks three we got to move I go Mavericks 3 Mavericks 3 we have a consensus we got Brandon producers over here all right Brandon Brandon has given us the international move around symbol so this brings us to our last team and probably most important team in this conversation the Portland Trailblazers no no I’m just messing with y’all our next team is the Denver Nuggets 57 to 25 second in the west there was a three-way tie for the top spot in the west Thunder got first Nuggets got second or two-way tie excuse me see did we disrespect the did we disrespect OKC a little bit yeah I think I got then Denver four two way time n got second Denver Four I got Denver Four lost to timber wolves and westword Conference semi seven games lost kcp and Reggie Jackson Denver Four move timber wolves to one I got Denver Four move Timberwolves up and OKC right behind them so where the Kings go out the Kings top six thank you Brandon you’re back on you’re back on payroll so are we moving it we moving it so what are we doing now the why are the Suns Timberwolves one Timberwolves one and where we putting the Nuggets nuggets two they picked the Suns in there bro so nuggets 2 Mavericks 3 so does this complete oh wait no no no nuggets he said who did you say to who’s two Thunder Thunder Thunder two o where so Thunder two yep so that is that is that Sacramento that’s who you have yeah so what who’s now three under son is out sun should be out sa should be five and then who is six then I put the Suns at six then Lakers six Suns is out Lakers six I mean I think we trying to go three three repat on the uh playing game I’m just be honest with you we do have success in the three playing game Denver five I mean no wait Dallas five sorry to who’s three now oh [ __ ] my head hurts we need that six spot wait just put the Kings there for right now so see everybody and then we can and then flipflop the Suns and the King okay so right now Timber will Thunder Maverick’s nuggets Sons Kings that’s nasty had a Maverick that’s number three and they beat the [ __ ] out of both of them in front of them and they then they got a bigger acquisition that is playoff you’re talking we talking regular season regular season to get to the playoffs so they could beat the [ __ ] out of them again hell yeah and they got a new cuz I know Luca’s only going to play about 7 72 to 66 games that’s just his resume he’s he’s only playing about 60 to 68 games a season um they they they they literally hold him out enough to stay fresh the Suns don’t got no Anthony Davis see you lose LeBron you still got eight how many games they won hm they they were in the six spot and they missed Dam near all of last year who the sun Suns 49 wins that’s said they like we’re we’re we’re we’re not really thinking about this as if if all of them play let’s say all of them play 72 games right they’re not going to be a fifth seed they’re going to be what are they going to be higher it be higher they’re not going out the top six hell no they’re not going to be out of the they play together they wasn’t playing like that it wasn’t still just blowing [ __ ] out six they wasn’t winning like that cuz they was coming in and out but I’m saying they were coming in and out if we’re going to give them 70 games that means they’re going to be W or machine failed experiment so are we comfortable with this list as constructed I’m going just tell you man Suns out that top four Suns out Kings up Lakers in that top four is going to be crucial and that that that seven that that S8 n 10 is going to be brutal dog just look at the teams that’s out that’s going to be you got the Grizzlies the Pelicans the Lakers the Clippers the Warriors or the Kings or the sun that’s going to be some good ass basketball so are we com and does this are we comfortable with this list hell no just I just I did not just say the top four going to be battling we will revisit it later this summer said look at the outlist right we can we we take we want to take the Suns out put the Lakers in like they just there stars this ain’t like there’s stars is this proof is this proof of how much better the Western conferences in the Eastern no we had to do the East though we got to do the East we did the East yesterday did the East yesterday I didn’t okay it was easy I said invite Rashad I got VTO I said can we please have rad everybody it was like Boston Philly New York buck buck new uh it was Buck got that New York was was six Orlando five Orlando no Indiana was it Indiana 6 so some of the chat say also Philly replaced Cleveland and the how they finished so we will hold this one right now we will revisit this later in the summer depending on how moves pan out but as it stands right now Timberwolves 1 Thunder 2 Mavericks 3 nuggets four Suns five Kings six and on in the ouse the Warriors Clippers Spurs throw throw in another year another year rockets in the mix [ __ ] another year bro them Sons is in trouble them Suns is in trouble and I think them nuggets is in trouble mark my words say SRA do again them two teams is in trouble they have the the upside is with the Suns they whatever happened wrong last year happened and they still a six anything that went wrong happened last year they were six Denver can only go down down yeah that’s cuz they we moved them down well now let’s when you’re on a roller coaster and you looking down guess what’s about to happen you’re about to go down even with thunder even with thunder even Thunder is sitting there like this because they’re young but most of their guys played their starting five played 722 games and above so they were there they were all there I even believe that that was a momentum season for them that season went the way it went because they were consistent and everybody else was going like this if we come into the season everybody going like this man Thunder going to be 67 this is the 67 we figuring y’all out now we all we know how y’all do y’all come in here y’all going to play hard there’s a bunch of roster full of [ __ ] who just play hard but that’s the thing about SJ that’s what everyone loves about him is he like he wasn’t getting like 50 and then like 20 something it was 30 30 30 30 cuz he knew what his team needed I don’t think Mavs is going to be as I don’t know when we will re going to have to make a decision pass it he he’s getting 10 assists corner to that [ __ ] that’s not if we say his offense is that good because of Clay’s there that means he can’t average 30 something if he’s averaging 30 something that means clay ain’t getting off he can though think about his assists he’s averaging 34 n and n nine of those assists six of them going to Clay do you know a great place to revisit this conversation Dam points though I mean the better your team the better your team gets the the more your production so we’ll see the beginning of the season those assists are segmented to the to a new new player that can do [ __ ] those assists are going to little easy little lives for [ __ ] who averaging four point those assists was going to Derrick Jones Jr and and what PJ Washington shooting them wide open threes they were wide open shots it’s easy to pass wide open passing it to Klay Thompson now be wide open passing to Klay thomay said the reason I chose Dallas is because I seen how easy to he’s going to be more open which to most people would not be wide open but to him he’ll probably feel wide open but he still going to be very so this is this is how our list stands right now we will revisit you know where a great place would be to talk about this list Las Vegas Nevada where we will be starting this Saturday at the Sirius XM Studios at the win gills arena live Saturday through Wednesday 1 p.m. Pacific to 300 p.m. Pacific 4: to 6 Eastern I don’t we we have to clap for that but that’s just what we’re going to be doing so we’re going to get to packing but now let’s move on to mosty fans I really got to I Really got to itch that Lakers going to be number one I’m just just number one probably the most rational thing that you’ve said since I’ve worked with you on the show very it’s easy to believe no two LeBron Rashad there was two LeBron on the roster I would love it for the story but you know his son his son going to be watching him like right off the bench so he got to come and play like this is for you son to thebr go Daddy go you seen how Jaden Smith turned out right does that mean Will Smith and Jaden they just they just don’t do well in movies together you crazy just don’t do well the happiness Happ a good ass movie that wasn’t the movie I was referring to the other one one after Earth that was cool too you know [ __ ] can’t be doing British ACC have worked for anybody that was when he was a baby see two was early Bonnie that was Bonnie and CLE that’s how we’re starting that’s this is how we’re starting but our first movie together dad dad it’s enough okay Dad [ __ ] all right so our question is from Underdog user Quan Tron said Steph never won a title but had the same numbers would he be called influential Steph never won a title but did everything else the same would he be called [Applause] influential um yeah he was if he was able to I me they would be like stop doing that [ __ ] yeah I don’t know I don’t think Champion I think bble to continue to play that way because of the Championships now you got to think no no you got to think about it yes it that’s the truth because back then you got to remember the point that position itself was not um a championship resume for scoring guards so when he won it with that style it kind of opened up the floodgates for this new generation of guards being able to score if he just came down shot the ball and and it was mean meaningless it’ be Trey young they would have been they would have like how they do Trey young it’s the same thing but they they they didn’t like it because he won a championship they had to respect his style and then the fact that he won multiple one they’re like this [ __ ] works and that’s what changed the game what does that mean that’s what changed the game who does that does Dame do is it Dame time does it do that is it is is that D time from the same they shoot from the same area co right uhhuh it’s like three of them that does it right no no so Dame so to make it okay for Dame it wasn’t the Championships that made it okay it was the style it was no winning but he’s that what was the question the fact that I can come down Steph never won a title but have the same numbers would he be called influential he’s not so is Dame influential to the league D is influential to the league it’s damee time why to who logo Lillard loo Lillard we have a special you mean we’re talking about to the masses yeah little guys that can shoot from far away started it and he started it before he won a championship he started it before Mr B would you like to interject is his favorite player so I mean if if Steph don’t win the Rings none of he’s not influential at all no did Ellen Aron win the ring he didn’t need to he want I’m just the I’m just asking question no but he got MVP and he went to the finals though did he win a championship no no talking about Steph was influen was Alan Ivers influential okay without a championship yes okay so why is Steph Curry not okay so okay when they both got into the draft were they even in the same building as people who when Allan Iverson came into the league and Steph came into the league were they even on the same planet for influential yeah cuz Steph came from Davidson and March Madness and one was a number one pick and one was the fourth point guard to be drafted in this class they wasn’t even on the same Planet yeah they were it was just about picks back then back then Steph got picked where he was because he was he was small combo but Steph had Brown and him coming to his game in college cool that was he starting his influence huh go to everybody’s he didn’t go to my games [ __ ] he go to m that [ __ ] hey but that Davidson had stars at their games watching Steph Curry Run Around shoot threes and looking if he don’t yeah College inuence boom but he had influence I’m saying when he get to go he start over time got ankle got hurt exactly he still had influence and he playing against he playing with Monte Ellis who he just got maxed out what 20099 yeah 2009 who n so Harden was picked in front of him Tyreek Evans Rubio Johnny Flynn and then Steph and they all play good in college shoot Blake Griffin number I’m saying is if he if you’re putting him on the same same pedestal as Allan Iverson without a championship without a champ what I’m saying is the name starting off the career was very different Allan Iverson was a Bonafide star one had to build his stardom one was a star right they they started off their careers different so Steph Curry’s winning pushed him into this category as a star player disagree disagree cuz his skill set that makes him a star he’s always had it exactly College his skill set had nothing to do with the the winning put into a different so why are the kids out there shooting that [ __ ] with no regard they not even thinking about winning when did they start after he won a championship it didn’t start before he got the it didn’t start before got under armored contract before the Championships right own shoe before no they didn’t for sure no his his NBA deal was some horri some [ __ ] Drew holiday was the Drew holiday was an allar he was the allstar from the he was the first Allstar in the class Drew holiday so step in Philadelphia when was the first championship 2015 uh 20 Steph yeah 14 Steph debuted his first signature shoot January I believe of 2015 2015 after the Championship uh no before title was 15 before the about to go before so his first when he was when he was when he was so when he that cuz remember that that the year before he got popping and then starting off that next season the curry won fire the curry won debut before he won his first championship before he won a couple months but that year but talk about that year so the reason for the Steph Curry won was because Steph Curry was Steph Curry with Mark Jackson what was the no that was before that was that Mark Jackson was gone when he 13 I’m saying when he became step Steph became Steph before the championship Steph signed with Under Armor in 2013 uhhuh about a $4 million 4 million say that again in 2013 a what4 million4 milon a $4 million deal a $4 million deal what does that mean still a signature shoe $4 million signature shoe dropped 2015 before the Warriors won their first championship what was their record when he signed it 20 what they W on a 20 game winning streak 24 game winning streak that was that year what year did he win MVP that year 2015 I guess I guess at the end of the start of the next season yeah huh the next win stre was the next the next 24 240 remember oh yeah yeah that was the following year yeah what’s that crazy record season right l so I guess I guess we just agreed to disagree so his first deal so his first deal so his even his first contract his first contract uh Drew holiday was making more than him too so we will agree to disagree on this topic that is our show for today we appreciate all of you for pulling up to gills Arena presented by Underdog fantasy whoop shout out shout out to all of my folks out there supporting the move around podcast my boy move around a verb and R Brown man shout out to a verb Brown move around podcast generational for the people get right or get left get right or get left we will see y’all in Vegas starting this Saturday make sure you tap in with us we got a bunch of special guests uh hopefully some gentleman’s cut is on the way Steph Curry please uh we we need to get inebriated as we go to Vegas for summer league we will be at Bonnie’s game on Friday if you need us but this has been gills Arena presented by underd fantasy we’ll see y’all in Vegas on [Applause] Saturday e
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33 Comments
At the 1:25:25 point shows the difference in the mind states of the NBA and the WNBA.
In the recent rise of Angel Reese ROY and record breaking talks, days later CC stats have started being padded with double and triple doubles..
Rashad was spot on about Brown getting snubbed
Lexi… thats it thats all
Lexie throwing her twat at Rashad is getting pathetic
Curry w no rings is just Dame Lillard
Lexi legs 👀👀
Angel rebound that's a good nickname
Admiral had 72 sheesh
I agreed with Cemetery Larry a lot this episode especially the Steph Curry influence conversation
why is gil and rashad not acknowledging that all the big time players declined to go and compete in 2004?
McCants stat bringing up bron. He's the ultimate dick eater. Nigga he been hurt basically for 5 years lmfao
1:17:28 I love how Gil just causally called the man “Zeedy” bro just be giving nicknames 😂😂😂
I figured it out. McCants hate bron. Because he feels as if he was supposed to be bron. Peep why he be wearing that craft store ass crown 😅😂😅😂. Boy a fucking clown fr fr
Jared get bullied at the 5
Angel Reese for me is the rookie of the year, personally, but if Clark won it i would not be surprised but a co rookie of the year would be the most ideal because both do truly deserve it
Y’all dumb asf dropping okc to 6th
AD played in the game.
Memphis top 6💯
Sexy Lexie
I agree with them on the Team USA thing. What they gonna do put Devin Booker as a 3?
Angel Reese getting gifted double doubles, check the film….. that’s not dominance, that’s bogus stats for storyline’s and click bait….. pffft
Gilbert is truly a fool of fools. Of course they're not gonna use the same language to describe Kawhi showing out as Cooper Flag if he performs well. A 17 year old coming in not the league theyll just hyperbolize everything to sell his potential
Women be shopping 😂😂Mccants with a classic 💯💯😭😭
USA gon need ja in a few years trust
I need that shirt
Everything yall said plus Kawhi is the lebron stopper he dnt really wanna play wit dude regardless😂kawhi a og type dude he woulda been more respected in the 90s& early 2000s
Start bench cut. Dwade klay harden
1:59:53 Gil doesn't even realize what he just stated. Dude, if that journalist is to be put on the burner for his credibility because the owner said he's lying his job would be on the line don't you think that journalist would be taken legal action? You'll be opening Pandora's Box if these real journalist start outing sources with behind closed doors information
Grizzlies are out when they got their whole roster back and added Edey 😂 yall dumb asf
The Boston Special, where they fight over White and Brown on who truly deserves the spot 😂
& they won 💯 @lexie brown
Glad gils as annoyed as I am with the gun jokes 😂