Was Harden’s Best Season Overrated or Not?
The panel breaks down Peak James Harden’s historic scoring season and what would happen if he joined today’s OKC Thunder roster. The Panel debate whether OKC could have 4-peated and if Harden’s iso-heavy play style would help or hurt a title run. The Panel also compare SGA vs Peak Harden and discuss who fits this young OKC team better. If you love NBA debates, OKC basketball, or James Harden talk, this video is for you.
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36 Comments
Chill stay lying Kobe don’t average no damn 9 free throws a game for his career he’s not even close to 8 wtf
Nope…Harden plays ZERO defense.
This is such a nasty conversation. This didn’t stay on topic. James Hardens scoring as mentioned is an anomaly. I do agree that peak for peak, the separation between James and SGA is defense and end of the game/ ability to be clutch. Aside from that, the offensive engine and the play making is in favor of Harden
I was here when we received Harden and Shai. SGA better and he just getting started.
12:12 bra😂😂
Harden does not have a better playoff run than 2025 SGA man please stop. He doesn’t even have a better run than 2024 Ant.
People bring up Harden vs the Warriors like CP3 wasn't what put that team over the top. CP3 gets injured they can't finish. Harden was there when his team missed 27 threes IN A ROW to lose game 7. Y'all really think Shai is letting that happen? 😂😂 hell no
One guy averaging 35 on 47% shooting percentage. The other is averaging 33 on 53% shooting percentage. How much more impactful is 2 more points?
Pen moving the goal post with him this whole vid
Luka is NOT the best scorer in the league! How are we, as a collective, watching what SGA and Jokic are doing this year and even fix our mouths to say “Luka is the best scorer in the league.” Are ya dumb?!
Luka’s efficiency at all points on the floor including the free throw line is nowhere near what SGA and Jokic are producing.
Luka not even scoring better than Spida. Ya really caught up in box score watching as opposed to actually watching the game.
I think Harden on an OKC type team becomes a distributor. Like a younger version of his early NJ self. Houston was terrible building around him.
Don't care. All I remember is his finals substandard play.
If he would’ve 4 peated than he should’ve at least 1 peated without all that harden was a great player but it’s the leadership difference shai makes his players play the way they do I think bron the goat but this is the same argument ppl use for Jordan he made Scottie etc not that I agree but I’m starting to see the effect of the killer players with leadership a good example of some without it is kd and harden
this narrative that shai played bad in the 2025 playoffs is crazy
No way Harden is a ball dominant player it would disrupt the collective play
Harden would not have a game like shai vs the pacers game 4 series on the line and he comes off clutch it’s what won us our first title
If we talking peaks it’s close but I think I’d give it to Shai just imo 2016 curry is the greatest scoring season ever looking at volume and TS% and Shai is right on his heels this year on top of the fact harden needs the ball to exert his historical value he doesn’t have much of an off ball game and can be idle like when he gave the ball to KD in Brooklyn or CP3 in Houston Shai can play on ball and offball their scoring is pretty even maybe slightly to Shai cuz of the better efficiency relative to the league both have histiruc free throw rate Shai better at rim and midrange harden better from 3 harden is the bettter passer and playmaker clearly to me but he has high volume turnover while Shai is one of the lower volume turnover stats in the modern era Shai is also a clearly better defender in almost any aspect harden was only good at post defense and jumping passing lanes although he did gamble a lot for steals and the fact Shai seems to match his level of play production and efficiency well in the playoffs while harden does have a slight drop off. People might pick harden for nostalgia and his juicy box score stats and nostalgia but in reality cuz he has the ball so much those box score numbers can out pace his actual real impact and this is the case for a lot of ball dominant guards who aren’t great defender (Luka and Russ) but realistically I think Shai is leaking slightly higher and I thunk without a doubt by the end of his career he will surpass harden all time without any.p major injuries touch wood
Pen moved the goal post an unreal amount of times
bro get pen off the panel gng this dude can’t even keep up with the main part of the conversation
1:52 problem with Harden is he always choked in big games so I can’t give him the benefit of the doubt
It’s crazy shai was still getting 30 while shooting 35% from the field in last year playoffs games 😵💫
Pen just a SGA meat rider
These are the conversations Shai should be in not Kobe or Steph talks not on that level
Hell no could harden carry this team. SGA plays defense and its more team involved unlike harden
Pin is a sour loser he had the easier side to defend and still lost the debate 🥱
Every time I listen to these guys all of them except for the white guy make no sense majority of the time. They glaze the ball hog players and suggest ridiculous scenarios and just hate on anything OKC. Sga has 93 games consecutive of 20 points, no one else has done that other than Wilt Chamberlain. So to say Harden is a better score or more efficient is bs
We’re having a positive Harden experience and where’s Marz??
Swipavic strike again
people are low iq and dont watch as much basketball as they claim they do. harden was playin with absolute bums around him and still was busting the entire league up and was always 1-4 in the west who was STACKED and gave the warriors a run for their money. the only reason harden doesnt have a ring is because of the warriors, without them he has at least 1 or 2. the talk around james harden is so fuckin digusting, this man was on the floor with people like fuckin PJ tucker, danuel house, capela , ryan anderson , luke mbah a moute and shit… sga would never make the playoffs with a team like that. yall need to get the fuck outta here with this revisionism of harden career.
SGA is better than James Harden. Lets not bring up convos to stain OGs legacies.
Just look at the teams harden has been on
I usually be agreeing wit ox but HELL NO harden has to be completely overrated he was extremely good in his prime for this era he was the sixth man for a reason
Who on okc is better than prime Russ? Cp3 harden even had Dwight when he was still an all star center and did nothing ox said he win 4 in a row lol dude hasn’t made one finals as a starting star player
If we’re in a series that goes 7, I’m sticking with Shai.
Swipa is so dismissive when talking about SGA😂 he’s the only person on the panel that’s like that too. It gotta be Jokic related
Swipa & Penn both was going around the table a bit😂 Swipa gets petty with Penn but Penn started mixing up his arguments which Swipa was right it was the Peak Harden & current Shai being same lvl scorers but Ox had used that to leverage his statement of Harden being able to 4 peat with OKC which is what Penn was really arguing against cuz yh it's more than just about scoring for that type of success…