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Celtics Are DEEP This Season + Jrue Holiday Injured | Bob Ryan and Jeff Goodman Podcast



Celtics Are DEEP This Season + Jrue Holiday Injured | Bob Ryan and Jeff Goodman Podcast

Going to take it got it Boston WIS two legends in basketball analysis with over 70 years combined experience this is the Bob Ryan and Jeff Goodman podcast hey everybody it’s Gary tangway along with Bob Bryant Jeff Goodman who’s busy covering the NCAA tournament so we’re going to do our best

Uh to fill in for him and Bob has a lot of thoughts on the attorney so don’t worry about that college basketball fan get your fil all right we are brought to you by priz picks the exclusive daily fantasy partner of clns media pick more pick less it’s that easy with prize

Picks Bob uh we are in foreign territory well I shouldn’t say foreign territory it’s been a while since the Celtics have been in um a position like this basically they’re just cruising they’re going to win the Eastern Conference they’re going to Coast right into the playoffs so when it comes to talking to

The Celtics or talking about the Celtics what do we do now I think it’s very clear and Joe moua has made it clear that um number one maintenance of the fragile people starting with porzingis and and and continuing the puff seizure with Horford uh you now you’ve got to deal with with

Holiday uh and but the point is uh uh we’re also working in new people they they picked up tman um rather than starting Hower in this victory over Detroit on on on uh Friday night he started tman and got some useful service out of him you know we like what we’ve

Seen of him he is what he is he’s not a star he’s a he’s a classic role player you know he’s a role player and he gets it apparently he he he’s comfortable with that he has no delusions of of athletic Grandeur he he knows he’s an

NBA player who has certain level of skill and and and he’s a good team guy apparently and that’s that’s great to hear that’s exactly the kind of guy that they needed and wanted they don’t want a guy that’s going to come in and want and disrupt things okay so it’s a matter of

Of of mix and match and experiment and meanwhile you’re you know you even can win without Tatum last night because Brown has I he’ll never silence all the critics okay that let’s just get that straight the price tag on him you know he shouldn’t be the highest paid player

In basketball it’s circumstantial it’ll end next year but people won’t give you know he has to the left the can’t go to his left thing and drilling the traffic he’s better he’s doing you know let’s see how he does in the playoffs but meanwhile he’s he’s really playing well

And and he’s shooting great he’s shooting my God he % for the season so you know this this is not just on twos this including threes and and he’s um he’s playing very very well but as I said he’ll never S as long as he knows that he’ll never Silence the Critics

Right and goes about his business think’s gonna be fine it’s not his fault he’s the highest paid player no no no it’s not but exactly it’s not it’s I mean it’s a nice luxury good for him but it’s not his circumstantial and and U and finally U you know not finally but white

Continues what do we say we we’re running out of you know we’re just so used to what he does every night now and and and I I still continue to be amazed at how easily he was to to get you know what what a great move that was I had no

Idea none that that he was that good nothing and then so but that’s what Joe’s gonna do Joe’s gonna mix and match try things um and and and and make sure that you know nobody gets over that they people get the the pr right around playing time uh doesn’t this remind you

Of Celtics teams of the past that were contenders for championships where you know I’m just thinking about the 60s into the 70s and the 80s and when you talked about the role players even in ‘ 07 we saw role players like Eddie House Eddie House James posy and finally PJ Brown the

Final piece of that puzzle was PJ Brown and um absolutely those three guys if they don’t do what they did there’s no Championship they were part of the whole the whole mosaic if you will the whole puzzle so absolutely and now we have we have Pritchard and we have Hower filling

Those roles and and and um and oh the I hope the the much underrated Luke cornette Luke cornette has made his his himself known in a very positive way specially the second half of this season they are legitimately nine deep for sure and and that’s enough you don’t need

More than that and that that’s fine and now due to matth here with T is are they 10 Deep I lost track but they’re they’re sufficiently deep I’ll put it that way right right right right Joe has Joe has a Joe has a lot to go to on the bench he

Do he’s got options and how about the other day playing cornet and porzingis you know and right porzingis because he you know he has that outside shooting threat and he is more agile laterally than than people would have believed you know defensively he’s he’s not necessarily a liability covering a guy

Four or five inches shorter than he so um they’ve got a lot of options so that sense I I know one thing was must be the Envy of all the league the Envy of other coaches is that back court but you know and and the the the cerebral nature of

That back court now that’s why as an alarmist the holiday thing bothers me oh I worry I I you know you you need you want him you have to have them and uh they definitely uh but they’re playing they’re downplaying it we’ll see we’ll see they’re downplaying it it’s getting

Better getting better you know okay um but when in four weeks from now he better be ready to go they have plenty of time for Holiday to get better what they have right now they’re very fortunate they can rest people and they’re also in a situation

Where I read that porzingis said I could have come back earlier yes he said than for quotequote I would I could have come back so he’s nursing a hamstring right hamstrings I don’t care what sport you’re talking about you don’t want you know you don’t want to mess around with

That they’re so deep though porzingis is probably thinking okay I’m nursing this hamstring I could take more time but I still got to get some touches I can’t get too rusty yeah so so let’s get to my boy my my my crusade Payton fitchard go ahead well it he has become absolutely

Uh official pest he’s he’s become Brad Maran without the of basketball without the nasty stuff I mean without the skates you’re right without he he and I said this you know he’s a cross between Larry Sig freed and seing if seing had a three-point shot so he’s the first

Payton Pritchard in the Rox history but he does remind me of pred of Larry of sigy on defense he’s a dogged Defender and my favorite observation if you will about him is is and would you not agree he seems to be good for at least one great sneaky offensive rebound every

Single night right you gotta box that little that little guy out and and you gotta you gotta know where he is uh and uh uh and that’s that wasn’t part of the package that that you know because the package that people thought that was the shooting you know he’s a three-point

Specialist and that’s what got him into the league as a first round pick he was the in fact the number 26 pick of the 20 draft in the first round um but uh uh and now speaking of the shooting uh and he’s been in double figures now he’s

Getting real steady steady extra playing time he’s been a double figure seven of the last eight games his last three games g 23 three points 19 points 20 points 23 for 40 from the floor including six in his last four games 16 for 31 from three the go with is

Shooting almost 40% for the season which is which is what you want and I mean what’s not to like you know you gota like he is what he is he’s six feet one if he is that um but he has become a major asset to this team and and you

Don’t you know ever mind seeing him on the floor and that’ll help him get over this period with with holiday to a degree you know um now they got down the road they got a super silly road trip you know lengthy road trip coming up and

Uh we’ll see how that handles but right now it’s extraordinary they are six games up in the loss over the next team in the league I know yeah to be you OKC and six games in the loss on March 23rd over the league not the conference now

One thing you were talking about earlier about the comparing the good old days and all that uh the the big in the in the big three era and the original big three era uh in bird Parish male era uh there was always Philly and they Philly

Would be right with them 40 years ago today you know Philly would be right with them in fact 40 years ago was the year uh yeah that’s 84 so um so yeah and and from from from 80 to 85 you know Philly was right with them and but that

There’s nobody right with him right now in that conference you know but now Milwaukee has excuses and I don’t reasons injury reasons and I I still don’t don’t be cavalierly dismissed them when the playoffs start don’t please don’t uh anybody but uh um it it I never

Could have foreseen this kind of a spread no that that they would spread eagle leag this no no I we we knew we were gonna have a good season but whoa you know this is now I gotta remind you um the winningest Celtic team in history did not win the championship the

Winningest team in NBA history did not win the championship so this is the NBA’s equivalent of the President’s Cup folks get get this in your head you you you buy sport you dual sport people that know the Bruin’s history um um winning that that’s all well and good and

They’re going to be the number one seed it ain’t no guarantee and you you know and uh so but so I always say enjoy this ride and then when the playoffs come put on your playoff hat and get in your playoff mode put on your playoff face

Fine but just enjoy what you’re seeing because nobody deserves this no fans set deserves this nobody does so we we were blessed to have it football season may be over but the action on the floor is heating up whether it’s a tournament season or the fight for a playoff homec

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Which NBA team the Bulls I mean I the Warriors 73 the uh the Warriors didn’t they break the record or the Bulls still the record okay oh that’s right right right right right right right right right okay 73 so um they didn’t win and you know you got hurt and things

Happened and the Celtics didn’t win for a very simple reason John hav ran into a pick between dve busher and Bill Bradley and and messed up his his shooting hand shoulder and and had to play one and a half hands the rest of the away mostly left-handed and and they still went

Seven losing a a route at home in seventh game by the way and uh they’re the best team in C they were the winningest team now the next winningest team did win 67 and 15 that that team did win and that of course the 85 86

Team right and then I believe the 0708 team with 66 wins and of course we know know that they did win but the winningest team did not win just just keep that in mind what was it like running into a Dave deuser pick uh Dave

De busher was a tough guy he was he was a standard of of of of forward excellence in those days and and until they picked up Paul Silas as the antidote they were he he he tormented them Paul Silas was the Kryptonite for for them for the busher uh interesting

Yeah very and he also though he was a combination of of finesse and and strength uh he would have flourished in tday game he had three Point range he had three-point range and and uh he could have he could have been a very good floor spreader here Believe Me In

Addition to to his you know his duties in the trenches it’s physical game well let’s go out west Bob and I want you to give me your thoughts on these four teams because it seems right now these four are the are the contenders y with the Thunder nuggets Minnesota and

Clippers uh and that is the order of the Western Conference stand yep break it down for me well okay see is is a team uh it’s a growth stock that we’re seeing having right good weeks you know good good returns every week you know um with

The it’s a young youth oriented team um and and the you with a player who’s having a a tremendous year in Guild Alexander the SGA now he’s a and they they’re they’re they believe in themselves uh very much um but they only have a one game half well actually they

They’re tied in the win they’re won and loss over Denver it’s Denver to beat and I mean that with regard to until proven otherwise they’re they’re they’re the favorites they’re definitely the West favorites to me to come out of the West um nothing’s changed with them at all Jo

Jokic continues to do what he does every single night Murray uh I mean uh yeah does what he does um okay Minnesota is an intriguing team um they’ve got Anthony Edwards I’m telling you is is is doing a Michael Jordan imitation this year I mean he’s U I’m not saying

He’s Michael Jordan but I’m telling you if you want to have a young young person say you know what would Michael Jordan like you say well look at Anthony Edwards and turn it up a notch or two he’s having a phenomenal year they got the big guys you know goar and and and

And uh they don’t have Carl Anthony Towns now that’s and and and I don’t know in the long run the record the metrics showed that they were winning as much without him as they were with them even though you know we’re surprised to hear that um and goar is is a threat

He’s obviously once again making a bid for defensive player of the year uh um they and they and they I think they believe in themselves now then the next team up of course we know what they’re all about they’ve got three veteran guys the Lac look the Clippers they got they

Got Leonard and and George and Harden zubac is a better big guy that people realize it’s but he’s he’s pretty good um but it’s all about those three guys and and the fact that that two of them you don’t know if they’re going to be able to show up every night when the

Playoffs come right you know history tells you that Leonard and George are very injury-prone and uh uh the one big thing for them is that it took a while but they finally accommodated themselves to harden and Harden accommodated themselves to them you know he’s not an

Easy guy to play with I don’t think or he live with probably you know but uh um they got they’re going to be the proverbial tough out I think assuming they stay healthy but that’s no guarantee on that um they’re not going to win I will be very very very very

Surprised if whoever comes out of the East is not staring uh Denver in the face it’s it’s GNA be it’s I think it’s Denver Boston yeah and umh and that’s it now let me just say this uh in terms of winning a series and being annoying uh you know the next four

Teams you can you can make a case for all of them uh being in that category uh Phoenix we know what the story is with Phoenix in terms of the the the topheavy with right Durant Durant and and Booker I love Booker still and Beal uh but very

Very thin in depth um then we’ve got Sacramento last year’s darling at in the playoffs that that have not rebounded well at all to it um they’re 40 and 29 better off than I thought you know you know I love you know I I I get M the

Soap Box every time the subject of damat sabanus comes up oh yeah and uh the lake you know that when when will Anthony Davis get hurt will be in the first round or yeah I mean it just doesn’t seem to be in the cards you know no no

And I don’t think so they but they’ll have a game every now and then they they are might know they are they’re the they’re not I I don’t know if they the micro or the macro at the big picture the big picture probably the macro you

Know we know we have learned with great players as they get older and and and that um and and they clearly are not what they were but every once in a while it’s a it’s a it’s a way back it’s a throwback night you know right Larry had

Those that’s the way Larry’s last couple of years were every cup once in a while like he had a 46-point game against Portland on a Sunday you know that you know where’d that come from because he hadn’t been doing anything like that and they okay they’ve got uh a team like

That you know uh and and they they could be a team like that and and and Golden State the same thing you know that’s you know nobody thinks they’re going to win but I to Bor one of my own favorite phrases nobody’s GNA go into a series with them

Say oh goody goodie we’re playing The Warriors right yeah you’re gonna and and the wires quietly developed some two young players kaminga and you know the guy I mean with the with the with the tongue twisting polish name I can forget his name already the the the rookie and uh but they’re

They’re that’s something that they’ve been dying for it for a couple years is find some good they thought it was going to be wisan well it wasn’t wisan and and but out it turns out it’s it’s uh kaminga and it’s binski what I’m sorry forgive me everybody out there for

Butchering this young man’s name I gotta do better I gotta do better than that I’ll get it down and then that’s it after that no it’s uh it’s so there they’re gonna be there’s a potential for some interesting uh moments for those other teams but I will be totally amazed

If it’s not Denver I think so at the end of the day and that’s going to be you know the Celtics had Tatum Tatum did the one thing that Celtics fans I think can sit back and maybe relax a little bit because Denver still scares the the heck

Out of me is that Tatum didn’t have good games against him you know so yeah and it’s a small sample size now two games and one was a two-point game and the one the other one they they could have won as well and uh you know we know that but

You know just Denver’s for real and he is amazing player period and and you know it’s uh and I look for I would look forward to I love you know I just love watching him play and see how he gets it done so I don’t even have to say who

That is the big guy um you want to you want to look into the mystery of that is Zion Williamson well Zion Williamson yes um has been playing very well and and uh then suddenly last night they did win but McCollum went off at 30 31 I believe

And they went and and ingrams hurt I hadn’t been paying attention to realize that they win the game anyway but he had played 24 minutes at four points and I I and as soon as I saw that boxer said oh my God you know because you know you’re

Always ready for him to get hurt and and I I went recap and just said he did just didn’t say anything about injury so just a weird night you know for him but he has been he’s had nights lately when it’s everything that people thought he could be you know and whole package

Triple double kind of guy I always remember when he was a senior when the senior when he was the one year he played it D that the the greatest play I saw make o year was a pass amidst all this dunks and all the wonderful inside stuff and and he can

Play he knows how to play this game there’s no doubt and it’s it’s just with a body that is not meant for basketball it’s a body meant for you know for football and and and and it’s a body that is I I has never rewarded anybody

With a long career in the NBA frankly so he’s gonna he’s fighting history there but um you know you want him healthy he’s fun he’s apparently for All Odds he’s a good he’s a good guy you know he’s he’s he’s he’s not a jerk and and

You know you oh never heard a bad thing no so I’m here I’m GL nice to hear that so you want to root for this guy to have a career and and for their fans to get the benefit of it so um so I’ll keep my

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Post your job for free at linkedin.com cribe that’s linkedin.com scribe to post your job for free terms and conditions apply uh let’s get to the NCAA tournament and first of all Bob let’s define an upset and I’m not even so sure your definition of an upset is

An upset anymore well I’ve been saying this for years and and I I I have fun with this particularly with Tony coin Heiser uh and his show uh people would if if anybody thinks that 9 over8 is an upset when they don’t realize what the the par it’s ridiculous

Okay here’s we have in my opinion true upsets start at 413 right historically 125 has been the one where you go and the last few years it hasn’t however yet here’s the here’s the S here’s the summation of yesterday of the first round okay the first round’s over now

Okay we have a 314 okan over Kentucky we have a 413 Yale over Auburn we have three 512s this year three 12s over five Grand Canyon over St Mary’s San Diego State over UAB James Madison watch out over Wisconsin we have three six 11s over sixes which which shouldn’t

Surprise me at all Duane over BYU NC State Over Texas Tech and Oregon over Southern South Carolina we have 11 10 over 7 Colorado over Florida oh and then in the dreaded 89 oh my God some people would think that we had three upsets number nine Northwestern over number eight Florida Atlantic number

Nine Michigan State over number eight Michigan State and number nine Texas A&M over Nebraska some total if you think that those are all upsets that that’s a total of one two five six nine 12 upsets no we have two upsets two Yale over Auburn at 413 and Oakland over

Kentucky at at 3:14 everything else is not an upset it’s just the NCAA tournament period the parody particularly this year a year when we had four different teams as a number one team at then at some point in season when when the the number one team in the

The best team in the country has three losses and that’s Yukon uh it’s that kind of year and so forget about that nonsense so I just like to have fun with that and and and it’s it’s that there two upsets yesterday and and they were they were

Whoppers over the two days I mean Oakland over Kentucky and then Yale over Auburn I love now Yale Auburn is Yale took a punch in the out to start and they said okay they were done I didn’t think they were you guys know they said

Okay is that it you done and then we’re gonna play and they played and then they they they fell behind again a second time I know and they came back and and uh um good for them that’s really nice for them I think by way they did James

Jones has been there now quite a while and and and you know his brother Joe is the beu coach and I’m wondering because we’re talking about 500 career wins Total I’m wondering if uh they’re the greatest winningest brother combo in NCA division one history I’m I’m gonna throw

That out there I I wouldn’t even know how to begin to research that but someone could so that’s a challenge for our audience I want somebody to find out for us why not for us if they’re the winningest brother combo in NCA division one history Jame James Jones at Yale and

Joe Jones at Boston University hit bob up on Twitter hit us up or x x x x x but and so they’re both I I encountered them both uh in my professional capacity over the years great guys and very deserving people um it seems to me that the NCAA

Tournament is thriving despite the premature prediction of its demise once guys are going to the G League or to the pros a lot of people um and there people out there say well the talent is duded uh that’s the game the teams aren’t as good as they they once were and and we

Really haven’t had a truly great team since the Florida backto backs in ‘ 0607 that was a juggernaut three guys the and the forwards the front line was Noah Horford and and um uh Cory Gaines and the back court was solid and they went back to back and of course that Noah

Noah famously came back and you know for a senior year second year and rather than ter Pro uh anyway um this the tournament is Remains the tournament that is still and by the way the big interesting thing on Saturday at three o’clock where the two where the TV sets

Be tuned to your pick of NCAA B men’s games or would be the TV sets be tuned to Caitlyn Clark against the Crusaders of Holy Cross yes and uh I’ll tell you right now I I’m um um sign me up for I’m going to start out for sure I’ll flip

But I’m my anchor is going to be until you know until if a game gets out of hand okay fine but I’m I’m checking in with Caitlyn Clark and Hoy Russ if only and I’m sure our colleague Dan shaunessy will be as well oh absolutely it was

Nice to see in the Boston Globe that Mr shaunessy is well on his way back to being 100% And if anyone doesn’t know we’re referring to the colum Dan wrote on the Patriots and the series that was on Apple TV he’s still throwing his 98 on the black don’t worry he’s he’s feeling

Better he’s fine he’s doing better and yeah he couldn’t let it go and that’s great good to see we we we don’t we don’t want some watered down version you know saying nice things all the time we we want the real Dan shy you know it’s true absence makes the heart grow fonder

You know to me with all of the the and I talked to Dan about it I said look bich had his version on NFL Network it was great Brady had his thing on ESPN it was great you know CRA you know the crafts had their thing fun to watch great and

You know with me it’s like to me now in the media politics Sports everybody has their version and it’s kind of up to you to pick which one you want to go with right I mean it’s true you don’t want to get involved in in in alternate facts

Though no that’s right you don’t want to get involved you got to draw the line somewhere dra I don’t want alternate facts quote unquote okay you don’t want alternate facts Dan you know where would we be without shaas SE I mean I’m serious right now I mean nobody there’s

Nobody that does what he does he’s like our Watchdog he is and and and you know I mean I don’t have that in me to to to do that but you know I I I mean I’ve taken people to task of of course there are people that think I got Al Skinner

Fired haha that’s such a joke you know didn’t they didn’t need me you know and uh that’s fine but no um yeah no Dan Dan Dan he has a vision of what a columnist shouldn’t ought to be and he’s a wonderful writer and and and he’s and he

Uh he is no he’s he’s a treasure whether you agree with him or not you know he’s a must read and we you know I’m glad he’s back or right well on his way back all right Bob always a pleasure my friend I don’t know when we’re going to

See Mr Goodman again now well he said you know and um you know but now I just say I’m looking forward that by the way next weekend we have a Regional so I will be in ATT next Thursday and Saturday at the Garden we have a regional and uh um so the tournament

Well I’ll just leave you with this the team to beat is still the team to beat it’s it’s yukon’s to win or lose ultimately I believe you go Bob Ryan thank you my friend uh Ryan tangu Goodman who is On Assignment big time at the NCAA uh brought to you by prize pcks

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In this episode, Bob Ryan and Gary Tanguay delve into a variety of topics surrounding the Boston Celtics and beyond. They kick off the discussion by examining the Celtics’ approach to load management as they maintain a substantial lead in the Eastern Conference. The conversation then shifts to comparing the current team with past Celtics contenders, highlighting the impact of players like Pritchard, Hauser, and Kornet. They also touch on Jrue Holiday’s injury and Payton Pritchard’s role as a “pest” on the court. The duo debates whether being the winningest team necessarily translates to securing a championship banner and takes a look at contenders in the Western Conference. Finally, they round off the episode with insights into the NCAA Tournament.

TIMELINE:

0:00 Celtics starting to load manage

3:30 This team compared to Celtics contenders of the past

4:00 Pritchard, Hauser & Kornet making impact

5:00 Jrue Holiday injury

6:08 Payton Pritchard is a PEST

9:17 Winningest team does not equal a Banner

12:50 West Contenders

22:11 NCAA Tournament

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  1. You folks need to talk toBruce Valez, he doesn't know about Johnny Most who called the early Celtic games or the earlier teams,

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