The Knicks and Jazz have had exploratory conversations surrounding Obi Toppin, Evan Fournier, and draft pick compensation for Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt, league sources told HoopsHype.
The Knicks and Jazz have had exploratory conversations surrounding Obi Toppin, Evan Fournier, and draft pick compensation for Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt, league sources told HoopsHype.
Remember when the Knicks desperately wanted Obi and was even considering trading up for him? Could have had Haliburton instead.
Jimm120
are Malik and Jarred any good?
Cause I feel Obi and a draft pick is too much for them
scavenger1012
The Knicks are going to trade for someone and then never play him
Fitz-magic1
Jarred Vanderbilt is not a better player or talent than Obi. Beasley Iām not sure about
p_two
obi is my mf boy but Iām down for this, vanderbilt and beasley have been solid for jazz this season. let toppin actually play somewhere else.
Ar__11
Beasley isn’t better than Fournier and Vanderbilt will end up playing 15 mins so what’s the point of this trade?
Norby710
And draft comp? What? 5th round picks?
acal131
I would love this trade if weāre priced out of OG. Check the gamelogs for these dudes, getting Vanderbilt to backup Julius would be a huge rebounding and defensive jump. Malik would give us veteran insurance if Grimes or IQ are struggling/get injured.
This obviously doesnāt make us contenders, but I think a trade like this really completes this iteration of the team.
Broadway_Baller
#DontTradeWithAinge
Broadway_Baller
No fuck Danny Aigne, donāt give him more draft capital. you know they have enough.
Jewnoo
The Rosas special
joshuagreen38
I donāt want Malik too much of a chucker
doncic2newyork
Leon Rose masterclass
Diligent-Cookie-1695
Thatās why (and other reasons of course) Iām not a GM, Im too petty, Id be like āFuck you Aingeā after the Donovan shit he pulled, unless he allows to get fleeced lol
patrickthunnus
A starting 5 of Sims, Ju, Grimes, IQ and JB backed by Hart, JV, RJ, Beas and Deuce works (on paper, lol). Only thing that I worry about is Beasley’s inefficiency.
JonnyGBuckets
Who knows why but Malik Beasley is having the worst shooting season of basically his entire career this year.
Maybe a slightly buy low opportunity? I don’t hate him as a microwave bench scorer. They need some scoring help with that second unit.
Vanderbilt is good, probably an upgrade on Obi right now as painful as that is to say.
Really going to come down to the pick(s) they’re giving up.
blkhwk27
i mean, considering the jazzā asking price for beasley and vanderbilt is a first each and this would get us off fourniers contract and be an improvement over obi and avoid his contract extension issue im not too terribly opposed, but it all depends on what draft capital we give. personally im not at all big on beasley and vandy doesnt excite me all that much, but ill admit i havent seen too much of him
knick4life
Jazz have been shopping those two. There was a rumor they wanted John Collins and a first round pick.
Seems like it would make us better. It really depends what draft compensation is. Knowing Ainge one protected first won’t cut it. Still skeptical this gets done.
STATnMELO650
Would be an awesome trade. Unfortunately hoopshype has never been right on rumors since Iāve started hearing about them.
Ornery_Alligators
Unpopular opinion:
I have no idea why Malik Beasley has value but Evan Fournier doesnāt. They are pretty much the same player. Volume shooters that can do a little more offensively but bad defensively.
Anyways, I want nothing to do with trading with Ainge. He always gets too value for his players. Vanderbilt would be getting 12 minutes per game here. I donāt know where Beasley would get minutes either.
Accomplished_Power_3
This is a good trade for us. We rly need a solid pf outside of Randle. Also if we trade him … we will have a starting PF.
AustinRiversNYK
Hopefully the draft pick compensation is a 2nd round pick
oofokay92
i love obi but v8 on this team would beef up the defense a lot. if ainge isnt on crack this time with how many picks he wants id definitely do it.
Cautious-Ad-9554
2 decent rotation players that future Obi Toppin is much better then.
kidkuro
Vanderbilt is good this would be a nice move. It isn’t sexy but it is smart in regards to cost while still improving the roster in a noticeable way.
mavrik2190
It would be a good trade. Can’t hold Obi back any longer. A protected 1st rounder will likely be included. I would rather Eric Gordon and Tari Eason for the same package. Gordon drives in the paint and Beasley doesn’t. I do understand that the Knicks want to get players in their timeline and both Beasley (26) + Vanderbilt (23) do that. I think the Knicks should do it. Fair Trade. Good for now and the future.
hotgarbagevideo
No thanks!
wizardofweird
If the draft picks arent crazy pull the trigger. Send Obi and Fournier where they can actually get play time
tfou79
Stupid decisions will be made as usual.
Tacitus_99
I have my issues with this front office, but itās nice that for once theyāre focused on adding young players. Getting rid of Fournier and getting useful pieces in return is worth it.
Fyretorsomonkey
Booooooo I love obi šš„ŗ
I mean it’s a fair trade and probably makes us better but.
Boooooooooooooooo
ZoidbergSaysWoop
Beasley and Vanderbilt don’t fit with the Knicks and would only take playing time from Grimes, Barrett, and Quickley since Brunson is planted at the one and Obi works perfect as a backup four in small ball lineups.
Giving up on Toppin early is a surefire mistake.
I’d take Fournier over Beasley right now.
Fournier is the consummate professional and if Beasley loses playing time because of his lack of renown on defense, he will ruin the chemistry from the bench.
Pieguyxx
Id be ok with this if its for like one protected pick
YDoTheKnicksHateme
This sounds too fair for the jazz to be interested
aesop_fables
Can someone bless me with a quick bio of Beasley? Iām familiar with him but not totally. Thanks.
severinks
I don’t have any faith in this trade and I’m trying to remember what I thought of those two players and I can’t even remember.If I’m not crazy I remember Vanderbilt is 6 8 but he doesn’t play small forward he plays the 4 or even the small ball 5 and Beasley is a shooting guard who’s not a defender and isn’t a dead eyed shooter. As for Fornier and Obi I’d rather wait until the offseason to explore those trades at our leisure instead of making some big grab and roiling the waters in the locker room when they aren’t even gonna move the needle for us. I’d much rather get rid of Rose and Cam and get back a 3 who can play some D and maybe be able to shoot league average from 3(I have no idea who that is admittedly)
awrk
If we make this trade I really hope that Thibs goes back to a 10-man rotation instead of benching McBride or Beasley. Feels like McBride is starting to trust his jumper more and more recently, and an IQ – Deuce – Beasley – Vando – Hart bench is really solid on both ends of the floor.
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Remember when the Knicks desperately wanted Obi and was even considering trading up for him? Could have had Haliburton instead.
are Malik and Jarred any good?
Cause I feel Obi and a draft pick is too much for them
The Knicks are going to trade for someone and then never play him
Jarred Vanderbilt is not a better player or talent than Obi. Beasley Iām not sure about
obi is my mf boy but Iām down for this, vanderbilt and beasley have been solid for jazz this season. let toppin actually play somewhere else.
Beasley isn’t better than Fournier and Vanderbilt will end up playing 15 mins so what’s the point of this trade?
And draft comp? What? 5th round picks?
I would love this trade if weāre priced out of OG. Check the gamelogs for these dudes, getting Vanderbilt to backup Julius would be a huge rebounding and defensive jump. Malik would give us veteran insurance if Grimes or IQ are struggling/get injured.
This obviously doesnāt make us contenders, but I think a trade like this really completes this iteration of the team.
#DontTradeWithAinge
No fuck Danny Aigne, donāt give him more draft capital. you know they have enough.
The Rosas special
I donāt want Malik too much of a chucker
Leon Rose masterclass
Thatās why (and other reasons of course) Iām not a GM, Im too petty, Id be like āFuck you Aingeā after the Donovan shit he pulled, unless he allows to get fleeced lol
A starting 5 of Sims, Ju, Grimes, IQ and JB backed by Hart, JV, RJ, Beas and Deuce works (on paper, lol). Only thing that I worry about is Beasley’s inefficiency.
Who knows why but Malik Beasley is having the worst shooting season of basically his entire career this year.
Maybe a slightly buy low opportunity? I don’t hate him as a microwave bench scorer. They need some scoring help with that second unit.
Vanderbilt is good, probably an upgrade on Obi right now as painful as that is to say.
Really going to come down to the pick(s) they’re giving up.
i mean, considering the jazzā asking price for beasley and vanderbilt is a first each and this would get us off fourniers contract and be an improvement over obi and avoid his contract extension issue im not too terribly opposed, but it all depends on what draft capital we give. personally im not at all big on beasley and vandy doesnt excite me all that much, but ill admit i havent seen too much of him
Jazz have been shopping those two. There was a rumor they wanted John Collins and a first round pick.
Seems like it would make us better. It really depends what draft compensation is. Knowing Ainge one protected first won’t cut it. Still skeptical this gets done.
Would be an awesome trade. Unfortunately hoopshype has never been right on rumors since Iāve started hearing about them.
Unpopular opinion:
I have no idea why Malik Beasley has value but Evan Fournier doesnāt. They are pretty much the same player. Volume shooters that can do a little more offensively but bad defensively.
Anyways, I want nothing to do with trading with Ainge. He always gets too value for his players. Vanderbilt would be getting 12 minutes per game here. I donāt know where Beasley would get minutes either.
This is a good trade for us. We rly need a solid pf outside of Randle. Also if we trade him … we will have a starting PF.
Hopefully the draft pick compensation is a 2nd round pick
i love obi but v8 on this team would beef up the defense a lot. if ainge isnt on crack this time with how many picks he wants id definitely do it.
2 decent rotation players that future Obi Toppin is much better then.
Vanderbilt is good this would be a nice move. It isn’t sexy but it is smart in regards to cost while still improving the roster in a noticeable way.
It would be a good trade. Can’t hold Obi back any longer. A protected 1st rounder will likely be included. I would rather Eric Gordon and Tari Eason for the same package. Gordon drives in the paint and Beasley doesn’t. I do understand that the Knicks want to get players in their timeline and both Beasley (26) + Vanderbilt (23) do that. I think the Knicks should do it. Fair Trade. Good for now and the future.
No thanks!
If the draft picks arent crazy pull the trigger. Send Obi and Fournier where they can actually get play time
Stupid decisions will be made as usual.
I have my issues with this front office, but itās nice that for once theyāre focused on adding young players. Getting rid of Fournier and getting useful pieces in return is worth it.
Booooooo I love obi šš„ŗ
I mean it’s a fair trade and probably makes us better but.
Boooooooooooooooo
Beasley and Vanderbilt don’t fit with the Knicks and would only take playing time from Grimes, Barrett, and Quickley since Brunson is planted at the one and Obi works perfect as a backup four in small ball lineups.
Giving up on Toppin early is a surefire mistake.
I’d take Fournier over Beasley right now.
Fournier is the consummate professional and if Beasley loses playing time because of his lack of renown on defense, he will ruin the chemistry from the bench.
Id be ok with this if its for like one protected pick
This sounds too fair for the jazz to be interested
Can someone bless me with a quick bio of Beasley? Iām familiar with him but not totally. Thanks.
I don’t have any faith in this trade and I’m trying to remember what I thought of those two players and I can’t even remember.If I’m not crazy I remember Vanderbilt is 6 8 but he doesn’t play small forward he plays the 4 or even the small ball 5 and Beasley is a shooting guard who’s not a defender and isn’t a dead eyed shooter. As for Fornier and Obi I’d rather wait until the offseason to explore those trades at our leisure instead of making some big grab and roiling the waters in the locker room when they aren’t even gonna move the needle for us. I’d much rather get rid of Rose and Cam and get back a 3 who can play some D and maybe be able to shoot league average from 3(I have no idea who that is admittedly)
If we make this trade I really hope that Thibs goes back to a 10-man rotation instead of benching McBride or Beasley. Feels like McBride is starting to trust his jumper more and more recently, and an IQ – Deuce – Beasley – Vando – Hart bench is really solid on both ends of the floor.